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Re: The Scientific Rationalist Case for Life After Death

Postby Scepcop » 15 May 2012, 16:53

Check out Dr. Jeffrey Long on Coast to Coast where he gives a long list of highly compelling evidence for NDE's.



Visit his website at http://www.nderf.org

Check out Dr. Raymond Moody on Coast to Coast about NDE's and shared death experiences.

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Re: The Scientific Rationalist Case for Life After Death

Postby ProfWag » 15 May 2012, 21:04

Scepcop wrote:Check out Dr. Jeffrey Long on Coast to Coast where he gives a long list of highly compelling evidence for NDE's.


Check out this website where they give a long list of highly compelling evidence against NDE's.
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Re: The Scientific Rationalist Case for Life After Death

Postby Craig Browning » 15 May 2012, 22:00

I stand in both camps; I believe the greater percentage of NDE type experiences are easily explained by SOME of the scientific theories that have been put out there but because of personal experiences around such things I have to doubt that such are the only explanations. . . especially when there are those points of view within science in which the door is open. . . I just read something on this but I need find which book it was in; one of those interesting points that I didn't memorize on the spot. :roll:
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Re: The Scientific Rationalist Case for Life After Death

Postby ProfWag » 15 May 2012, 22:10

If one were to believe in NDEs, then wouldn't one have to believe in a superior being as well?
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Re: The Scientific Rationalist Case for Life After Death

Postby NinjaPuppy » 15 May 2012, 22:27

ProfWag wrote:If one were to believe in NDEs, then wouldn't one have to believe in a superior being as well?

Why? Just because NDE's have been experienced by plenty of people, doesn't mean there's some sort of superior being behind the whole scheme. Can't a "spirit" or residual energy simply go off (be released) into the atmosphere without someone orchestrating the situation?
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Re: The Scientific Rationalist Case for Life After Death

Postby ProfWag » 16 May 2012, 02:51

NinjaPuppy wrote:
ProfWag wrote:If one were to believe in NDEs, then wouldn't one have to believe in a superior being as well?

Why? Just because NDE's have been experienced by plenty of people, doesn't mean there's some sort of superior being behind the whole scheme. Can't a "spirit" or residual energy simply go off (be released) into the atmosphere without someone orchestrating the situation?

I guess I'm stereotyping in that many people who claim NDE's also claim to see Jesus at the end of the light. As such, if one were to believe in NDEs, it's seems like it would make it easy to believe in Big Daddy, Junior, and the Spook as well.
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Re: The Scientific Rationalist Case for Life After Death

Postby Twain Shakespeare » 16 May 2012, 04:10

ProfWag wrote:
NinjaPuppy wrote:
ProfWag wrote:If one were to believe in NDEs, then wouldn't one have to believe in a superior being as well?

Why? Just because NDE's have been experienced by plenty of people, doesn't mean there's some sort of superior being behind the whole scheme. Can't a "spirit" or residual energy simply go off (be released) into the atmosphere without someone orchestrating the situation?

I guess I'm stereotyping in that many people who claim NDE's also claim to see Jesus at the end of the light. As such, if one were to believe in NDEs, it's seems like it would make it easy to believe in Big Daddy, Junior, and the Spook as well.



That is why I make materialist reductionism my default hypothesis. When I accept the ghost in the machine as being noumenal, instead of epiphenomenal, my pet balck hole gets feisty, the voices in my head claim to come from outside, the Universe gets infinitely complicated, and at the extreme, not only is anything possible, but everything becomes "real", from leprauchans to demiurges, but...

1) What do you mean by superior? 2) Glad you conceded you might have been stereotyping, Prof 3)....If you think it is ever "easy to believe in Big Daddy, Junior, and the Spook as well", you obviously haven't dealt with their voices in my head. They don't make things easy.

I'll stop gassing after one last comment. In my experience, I have no reason to believe the voices are "superior" in any sense. They are just different. Is an octopus superior to a tree? What I do notice is that they seem to be no more honest or free of fixed ideas than humans, and their morality is NOT based on human needs.
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Re: The Scientific Rationalist Case for Life After Death

Postby NinjaPuppy » 16 May 2012, 05:20

ProfWag wrote: As such, if one were to believe in NDEs, it's seems like it would make it easy to believe in Big Daddy, Junior, and the Spook as well.

Well, we do know for fact that Junior was a real person who lived and died, just like everybody else. Any existence of Big Daddy and the Spook still needs to be proven to some and are believed to be as real as Junior to others. Soooo...... if NDE peeps say that they see Jesus at some point during their experience, it sure as hell can be possible. He may have taken a job as bellboy to the Hotel California... where you can check in any time you like, but you can never leave.
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Re: The Scientific Rationalist Case for Life After Death

Postby NinjaPuppy » 16 May 2012, 05:32

TwainShakes wrote:I'll stop gassing after one last comment. In my experience, I have no reason to believe the voices are "superior" in any sense. They are just different. Is an octopus superior to a tree? What I do notice is that they seem to be no more honest or free of fixed ideas than humans, and their morality is NOT based on human needs.

I agree. Not with Twain's voices, as I wouldn't know anything about them, but with his idea of the word "superior" in this context. I feel that things of this nature tend to be rooted in some fictional or Hollywood description that sort of blows them out of proportion or makes them much more than they might be. Religion was taken from basic earth beliefs and formed into a way to control the masses. Men took a very simple concept and introduced the element of fear, blaming it on poor actions of the common man. If there was a drought, it was YOUR fault, not some regular cycle of the earth. The Gods are punishing YOU!
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Re: The Scientific Rationalist Case for Life After Death

Postby NinjaPuppy » 16 May 2012, 09:35

Also, people claiming to see Jesus during an NDE is an interesting topic since all we have to ID the man are artist's renderings. For all they know it's some hippy meeting them at those so called pearly gates. :lol:
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Re: The Scientific Rationalist Case for Life After Death

Postby ProfWag » 16 May 2012, 20:53

NinjaPuppy wrote:
ProfWag wrote: As such, if one were to believe in NDEs, it's seems like it would make it easy to believe in Big Daddy, Junior, and the Spook as well.

Well, we do know for fact that Junior was a real person who lived and died, just like everybody else. Any existence of Big Daddy and the Spook still needs to be proven to some and are believed to be as real as Junior to others. Soooo...... if NDE peeps say that they see Jesus at some point during their experience, it sure as hell can be possible. He may have taken a job as bellboy to the Hotel California... where you can check in any time you like, but you can never leave.

Actually, there has never been a confirmed piece of evidence that Jesus ever lived so it's not really a fact, though most scholars do agree he was actually a real person.
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Re: The Scientific Rationalist Case for Life After Death

Postby Craig Browning » 17 May 2012, 00:42

ProfWag wrote:If one were to believe in NDEs, then wouldn't one have to believe in a superior being as well?


The catch word here is "being" and that is a fluid thing; the person that goes through an NDE type situation seems to identify a personage that correlates to their own culture and religious influences more than not. This ties more to the Metaphysical teaching about Universal Mind & Consciousness -- it's not a Deity but our personification of a "thing" or "energy". . . we turn it into something that we can understand and relate to.

I have two dear friends the had NDE experiences; the one was an Irish Catholic born & raised who, in his experience, met with Jesus in a Rose Garden. The other was a convert to the Sai Baba tradition and so when he "died" he saw Baba coming to him with words of love and support. Both people imposed their idea of a higher being into the experience at a subconscious level so that they could better understand or identify with the message. There are even cases of the opposite happening; people falling into darkness, some identifying with being in Hell or Purgatory while others see themselves in nothingness -- a great empty void (oddly, this is very common with professed Atheists who typically make a big change in their life following the experience).

As science has implied, each of these things are examples as to how our own bio-chemical process can stir thoughts or "realities" within our mind during this period of temporary suspension and yet, science can't seem to be able to explain the other side of this issue -- the bi-location factors in which the NDE patient is seen and even has conversations with people in other places as well as those that can give exact descriptions of the room they are in, the people in that room and the actions each person takes during the NDE episode.

Science will someday soon, be able to refine its study of this kind of phenomenon and thus, reconcile the understanding and/or claims around it society seems to have. I believe this about all aspects of the paranormal; it is all real we've just not been able to "touch it" yet and explain it in ways that make it valid; Newtonian theory and concepts being limited as they are when it comes to such. But there's a huge universe out there where potential for discovery lays and time its cousin; reconciliation will happen and probably sooner than later. ;)
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Re: The Scientific Rationalist Case for Life After Death

Postby NinjaPuppy » 17 May 2012, 01:22

Craig- Very well put!
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Re: Life After Death documentaries

Postby Scepcop » 17 May 2012, 13:08

Check out this highly acclaimed documentary on NDE's and the Afterlife by Jay Weidner.

Infinity
The Ultimate Trip --Journey Beyond Death
A Film by Jay Weidner
Featuring Gregg Braden, Dannion Brinkley, Renate Dollinger, Stanislav Grof, John Holland, Dzogchen Ponlop, Robert Thurman, Alberto Villoldo, Neale Donald Walsch and Brian Weiss.


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http://store.sacredmysteriesmarketplace ... p-dvd.html

Description and Reviews:

COVR Visionary Award Winner: Best DVD 2010

What happens after we pass from this world? Is there a life after this one? Or do we just disappear forever? These are the questions asked in this powerful and poignant feature documentary, Infinity: The Ultimate Trip. Many may be surprised by the answers.

Featuring noted experts Gregg Braden, Dannion Brinkley, Renate Dollinger. Stanislav Grof, John Holland, Dzogchen Ponlop, Robert Thurman, Alberto Villoldo, Neale Donald Walsch and Brian Weiss, Infinity: The Ultimate Trip brings a message of hope and optimism concerning the most mysterious act in a human life; the end of this life and journey to the beyond.

Using vital and beautiful imagery, along with personal accounts of near-death experiences, reincarnation and more, Infinity brings forth the story of our own infinite nature, what to expect after death and the magic and beauty that awaits us on the other side. Here we learn of the energetic landscape of the world that we enter after we die, the angels, or beings of light, who assist us in the passing and the promise of a new life. Infinity: The Ultimate Trip is an honest and hopeful assessment of the greatest journey that any of us will ever take. It changes our view from that of dread and pessimism to one of hope, joy and light.


Critical Acclaim for Infinity:

“a moving and visually pleasing film that shows how our lives are connected to the infinite intelligence of the universe, and that this connection is, indeed, eternal.”
--Spirituality and Health

“Few experiences evoke the emotion of fear more strongly than the thought of death. Yet, those who have had near death experiences have shown us that death can be illuminating, beautiful or incredibly educational for one's immortal soul. INFINITY: THE ULTIMATE TRIP takes a breathtaking look at death, contemplating what it means to cross over into the spiritual ream. The program discusses the process of letting go of earthly ties, forgiving one's self and learning to see yourself as part of something greater than you ever believed. Featuring discussion by authors and thinkers like Alberto Villoldo, Gregg Braden, Neale Donald Walsh, Robert Thurman and others, the program talks about the meaning of life--why we are here in the first place--and how death fits into that picture.”
--Music Design In Review

"Remember the original Star Trek mission “…to go boldly where no man has gone before.” Well the film, “Infinity”, embodies that mission giving us a “bird’s eye view” of the “death experience by exploring personal encounters with that mysterious realm. Amazing stories of being struck by lightning twice, a man “sucked” from his body by an unknown force, a young sickly boy near death leaves his body, a woman paints pictures from a previous lifetime and receives a visitation by an angelic presence. In sharing his motivation to make this film, Director Jay Weidner says, “When my Mother passed away in 2002, I was consumed by my own lack of ability to help her understand that deathis not the end of everything only another phase of consciousness. Witnessing her fear caused me to examine the subject of death and the afterlife.” For him it’s personal.

Neale Donald Walsch, Greg Braden, Dannion Brinkley, Dr. Alberto Villoldo, John Holland, Dr. Stanislav Grof, Dr. Robert Thurman, Dr. Brian Weiss, Dzogchen Ponlop and Renate Dollinger all share personal perspectives concerning experiences with death. Powerful stories told against a dazzling array of beautifully filmed visuals whose images lend support to the words being spoken. This is a quiet film with a powerful message.

This is a film clear in its message that life does not end with death, but is a doorway leading to a new beginning. The psychic medium, John Holland says there is celebration when we are born, yet on the other side they see us depart. Conversely when we die, our earthly loved ones mourn our passing, while the spirit world rejoices at ourreturn. This film helps to us see the bigger picture as both halves of the circle complete. This is a visually engaging film that is informative, and provides a comfortable way to approach talking about death."
--Jeff Ferrannini, Believe 11:11 Magazine

“A highly recommended film that gently and convincingly opens new vistas of truth and understanding.”
--Light of Consciousness Magazine


“Breathtaking scenery and amazing fractal graphics.. expresses hope and optimism about our spirituality, the need to lose fear of death and our ultimate destination. Watch this enjoyable, informative film and it will take you closer to the answers than you have ever been before.”
--New Dawn Magazine

“Gorgeous imagery, personal accounts of near-death experiences and reincarnation, and more round out this incredible presentation that offers a remarkable level of optimism and hope to viewers of all backgrounds.”
--The Midwest Book Review

--“An incandescent vision of life as an ever-evolving soul’s journey, explaining the process of death and reincarnation, and our connection to God and the universe.”
--New Age Retailer Magazine

--“This movie is worth watching and absorbing – over and over.”
--Bella Spark Magazine

“This film is overflowing with images that will pull the viewer instantly into one’s deeper realms. The work shared will connect you with a truth that will immediately evoke a deep sense of comfort, knowing and pure understanding. Infinity: The Ultimate Trip will take you home to the grace found in the consciousness of the Divine.”
---Catherine Bradford, Contact Talk Radio

“What an incredible gift this film is. It touched something deep inside. It opens the heart, clears the mind and helps us all to embrace the mystery of death.”
--Reverend Judy DePrete and Reverend Glenda Knox, Common Ground Spiritual Center

“ INFINITY takes a breathtaking look at death, contemplating what it means to cross over into the spiritual plane. The program discusses the process of letting go of earthly ties, forgiving oneself and learning to see yourself as part of something greater than you ever believed.” --Music Design, In Review

“The point is to know one’s freedom, no matter what the circumstance. Walsch and others report the liberation of realizing that when you cease to fear death, you cease to fear life. And the truth of that is undeniable, always a breath of fresh air.”
-Mt. Shasta Magazine
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Re: Great documentaries on life after death

Postby Craig Browning » 17 May 2012, 20:22

It absolutely amazes me how someone can keep posting "information" and not actually PARTICIPATE in the discussion. :roll:
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