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Re: a voice that saved my a**

Postby brett » 26 Nov 2010, 01:31

it's spelt " "hypothetical" BTW :roll: - and if there's " not much point " as you put it - would not the JREF forum be a better place for you ?? - they have problems with spelling there too - must be a skeptic trait :lol: :lol: :lol:

as i have said to the sceptical many times - believe or not as you wish - makes no difference to me - i merely relate my experiences for the benefit of others for them to make their own minds up as to the validity of that experience - ( which you obviously have ) - i sure as heck wont be loosing any sleep over an anonymous person on the other end of a key board - who was not there - did not experience the incident - and thus is only CAPABLE of expressing an opinion on said experience

" the truth is still the truth - even if that truth is known to ONLY one person on the planet " ( or in this case 2 of us - the other being the colleague with me who heard exactly the same thing )

ho hum ............
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Re: a voice that saved my a**

Postby Arouet » 26 Nov 2010, 02:01

brett wrote:it's spelt " "hypothetical" BTW :roll: - and if there's " not much point " as you put it - would not the JREF forum be a better place for you ?? - they have problems with spelling there too - must be a skeptic trait :lol: :lol: :lol:


wow. zinger.

derida's point is that when dealing with an anecdote such as yours that is impossible to really investigate, all we can do is speculate as to what actually happened. There is more than one possibility.
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Re: a voice that saved my a**

Postby derrida » 26 Nov 2010, 02:18

brett wrote:it's spelt " "hypothetical" BTW :roll: - and if there's " not much point " as you put it - would not the JREF forum be a better place for you ?? - they have problems with spelling there too - must be a skeptic trait :lol: :lol: :lol:

as i have said to the sceptical many times - believe or not as you wish - makes no difference to me - i merely relate my experiences for the benefit of others for them to make their own minds up as to the validity of that experience - ( which you obviously have ) - i sure as heck wont be loosing any sleep over an anonymous person on the other end of a key board - who was not there - did not experience the incident - and thus is only CAPABLE of expressing an opinion on said experience

" the truth is still the truth - even if that truth is known to ONLY one person on the planet " ( or in this case 2 of us - the other being the colleague with me who heard exactly the same thing )

ho hum ............


sorry if i mispell words from time to time
english is not my first language
do you speak any other language by the way? i doubt it. since i doubt you are that intelligent.
i speak 4, and yes i do make mistakes from time to time, this is the way i learn.
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Re: a voice that saved my a**

Postby Arouet » 26 Nov 2010, 03:36

derrida wrote:sorry if i mispell words from time to time
english is not my first language
do you speak any other language by the way? i doubt it. since i doubt you are that intelligent.
i speak 4, and yes i do make mistakes from time to time, this is the way i learn.


derrida, you lose the moral high ground when you resort to petty insults yourself!
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Re: a voice that saved my a**

Postby derrida » 26 Nov 2010, 05:15

totally agree...

look.. i do have a little pride in speaking languages cause i have studiedthem since im little
so i dont like when people that doesnt even speak a 2nd language knock me down on grammar

for me is like if he was riding a donkey and make fun of the scratch in my car... is like.. what???
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Re: a voice that saved my a**

Postby brett » 26 Nov 2010, 14:32

derrida - you know nothing about me - so how do you KNOW i don't also speak several languages ?? - that is assumption and there is an old English saying "assumption is the mother of all f*** up's " - congratulations on your mastery of 4 languages BTW that quite an achievement :D

so rule no 1 - is ASSUME NOTHING about other people - unless you know them personally

and your friend is right - starting with the insults looses you cred- it ALSO marks you out as a SKEPTIC - as skeptics always start with the insults eventually ( usually when they are loosing the argument )

so rule no 2 - is if you wish to retain credibility - refrain from insulting other people on here

may i suggest that you read SCEPCOP'S article on the marks of a skeptic http://www.debunkingskeptics.com/Introduction.htm#Define

now unless you have any valid questions or observations further to this matter - which will PROGRESS the discussion in an "open minded " manner - then i further suggest you leave it be ;) again i have given you ( and all here ) a truthful and accurate account of the experience AS i experienced it at the time - which as i have stated i am prepared to swear to in ANY court in the land under oath - so either you believe me or not as you wish - and accept that people DO have experiences that are outside of "logic" - scientific dogma and all rules of whats considered normal or possible - or you you don't , and if the latter is the case , then you do not have an " open mind " - but one limited by the tenets of "known" knowledge ( scientific or otherwise )

i do NOT ask you or anyone else to throw away their current belief system - merely to accept that there are many things we mere mortals do not understand - in other words accept "POSSIBILTIES " and accept that we humans DO NOT know everything !! about everything - for that is ASSUMPTION of the worst kind

there is little point in continuing this , as i am not going to change my observation of a valid experience - and you and others are never going to accept what i have said as even POSSIBLE - so we could carry on arguing about this " AD NAUSIUM " - a rather pointless exercise

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Re: a voice that saved my a**

Postby derrida » 26 Nov 2010, 15:07

brett??
was i right? that you dont speak as many languages as i do!?!?!?
or even a 2nd!?!?!? was i right???

i bet i was RIGHT since you didnt touch the subject! hahahahahahaha
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I guess i might be psychic.. or wait.. maybe a voice told me that!
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Re: a voice that saved my a**

Postby brett » 26 Nov 2010, 18:10

oh DO stop being so tedious derrida - so you speak more languages well than me -big deal :roll: - i have only ever needed 2 - ENGLISH and COMMON SENSE

HOWEVER i can speak some

french
German
Italian
Cornish
Russian
and Spanish - all be it not well in any of them - but enough to get by with

and some sign language for the deaf - which has come in quite useful at times

there i have answered you question so is your ego satisfied now ??
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Re: a voice that saved my a**

Postby Arouet » 26 Nov 2010, 21:50

brett wrote:and your friend is right - starting with the insults looses you cred- it ALSO marks you out as a SKEPTIC - as skeptics always start with the insults eventually ( usually when they are loosing the argument )


Umm, this conversation has dropped right into the muck, and I won't add too much more to it, but just to say that you were the one who started with the petty inuslts. I was advising derrida not to respond to your petty insult with indignation and then add a petty insult himself, he loses the moral high ground. You should follow your own advice. You two are have both been petty in this thread. Only derrida at least acknowledged it.

Secondly: Petty or not, insults have nothing to do with whether one is a skeptic or not, There are jerks on any side.

now unless you have any valid questions or observations further to this matter - which will PROGRESS the discussion in an "open minded " manner - then i further suggest you leave it be ;) again i have given you ( and all here ) a truthful and accurate account of the experience AS i experienced it at the time - which as i have stated i am prepared to swear to in ANY court in the land under oath - so either you believe me or not as you wish - and accept that people DO have experiences that are outside of "logic" - scientific dogma and all rules of whats considered normal or possible - or you you don't , and if the latter is the case , then you do not have an " open mind " - but one limited by the tenets of "known" knowledge ( scientific or otherwise )


I''m not going to get back into the details of your personal experience, but keeping an open mind entails also recognizing that one's perceptions do not always reflect reality, and that there are different possibilities to explain the truth of what you perceived. No one has questioned whether you are telling the truth. The question is whether your interpretation and memory of what happened is accurate.

i do NOT ask you or anyone else to throw away their current belief system - merely to accept that there are many things we mere mortals do not understand - in other words accept "POSSIBILTIES " and accept that we humans DO NOT know everything !! about everything - for that is ASSUMPTION of the worst kind


I don't think anyone has suggested that humans have figured out all the mysteries of the universe,why would you assume derrida believes so? You know what they say about making assumptions! I accept there are plenty of things we don't understand - therefore we must be cautious about jumping to conclusions when faced with such situations. Such as in this case.

there is little point in continuing this , as i am not going to change my observation of a valid experience - and you and others are never going to accept what i have said as even POSSIBLE - so we could carry on arguing about this " AD NAUSIUM " - a rather pointless exercise


I'll accept that your interpretation is possible. Will you accept that your interpretation could possibly be incorrect?
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Re: a voice that saved my a**

Postby derrida » 26 Nov 2010, 22:43

brett wrote:oh DO stop being so tedious derrida - so you speak more languages well than me -big deal :roll: - i have only ever needed 2 - ENGLISH and COMMON SENSE

HOWEVER i can speak some

french
German
Italian
Cornish
Russian
and Spanish - all be it not well in any of them - but enough to get by with

and some sign language for the deaf - which has come in quite useful at times

there i have answered you question so is your ego satisfied now ??


at the end of the day
you dont speak any of those languages as i do speak english
you couldnt mantain this conversation in spanish or french
and by the way i studied 2 years of german and italian, yet i do not say i speak them.
you only ¨chew¨ the languages you do notspeak them. good luck asking for a glass of milk in russian.

¨i only need english¨ hahaha you speak like a true american.. are you an american?
when talking about languages you are in a donkey, i am in a car.
so think about that before criticizing me
so now that we establish that

one question.
the sign language.. is it universal for all cultures? could you travel the world and talk to all deaf people?. is like saying ¨i want milk¨ the same pattern in chile than in congo for example?
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Re: a voice that saved my a**

Postby brett » 26 Nov 2010, 23:09

@ arouet - YES i will admit i could ( sorry we could - don't forget it was not just me ) be mistaken - but as i have described - the evidence available to me at the time and to this day leads me to believe otherwise

@ derrida - пожалуйста я могу иметь стакан молока? - now stop being a tiresome individual - i will NOT be replying further as this is a fine example of skeptic tactics - disrupting a thread - trying to provoke the OP etc - you are just NOT worth the effort - GET A LIFE PAL !!
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Re: a voice that saved my a**

Postby derrida » 26 Nov 2010, 23:20

dude!

you cant type in cyrilic im sure about it! i got you using babelfish hahahaha
look! i can do it too!
Я могу также иметь русского беседы с интернетом

wow! i learned russian in 20seconds!
i guess that voice taught me how to do it!
you dont speak russian, stop embarassing yourself

and this isnt a tactic! you started this whole language bs!
next time youll know not to criticize people that know more about the topic than you do
im sure you have things you are better than others, languages isnt one of them.
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Re: a voice that saved my a**

Postby Arouet » 26 Nov 2010, 23:36

brett wrote:@ arouet - YES i will admit i could ( sorry we could - don't forget it was not just me ) be mistaken - but as i have described - the evidence available to me at the time and to this day leads me to believe otherwise


I'm glad for that. As for the evidence: the evidence is that someone said something, and you don't know who it was. There's a big leap between that and spirits. But like I said, there isn't going to be more evidence forthcoming, so we can just leave it there.

a fine example of skeptic tactics - disrupting a thread - trying to provoke the OP etc - you are just NOT worth the effort - GET A LIFE PAL !!


Derailing a thread is a "skeptic tactic"? Have you ever been on an internet forum before? C'mon, that's just ridiculous.
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Re: a voice that saved my a**

Postby NinjaPuppy » 29 Nov 2010, 21:31

brett] a fine example of skeptic tactics - disrupting a thread - trying to provoke the OP etc - you are just NOT worth the effort - GET A LIFE PAL !![/quote]

[quote="Arouet wrote:
Derailing a thread is a "skeptic tactic"? Have you ever been on an internet forum before? C'mon, that's just ridiculous.


Derrida does tend to make derailing a topic a specialty item here. :lol: While I do agree with Arouet that it is not by any means limited to skeptics, it's easier for the Mods if you would ignore the BS and continue with the topic at hand. Thank you.
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Re: a voice that saved my a**

Postby derrida » 30 Nov 2010, 00:54

NinjaPuppy wrote:
Arouet wrote:[quote="brett] a fine example of skeptic tactics - disrupting a thread - trying to provoke the OP etc - you are just NOT worth the effort - GET A LIFE PAL !![/quote]

Derailing a thread is a "skeptic tactic"? Have you ever been on an internet forum before? C'mon, that's just ridiculous.[/quote][/quote]

Derrida does tend to make derailing a topic a specialty item here. :lol: While I do agree with Arouet that it is not by any means limited to skeptics, it's easier for the Mods if you would ignore the BS and continue with the topic at hand. Thank you.[/quote][/quote][/quote]


common, he is the one that started with the grammar thing
and he is the one that humilliate himself getting caught using babelfish
it was a fun experiment, and he learned his lesson. done deal.

now, we can go back to the voice that he thinks he heard that saved his a**
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