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a voice that saved my a**

Postby brett » 07 Aug 2009, 02:28

hi all - part of my life was spent as a retained ( paid volunteer) fire fighter - well 22+years of it actually - and i have seen a few strange things - had some narrow escapes , but this you may find interesting :

we where attending an hotel fire with other retained crews - the building was empty - as it was undergoing renovation and one wing was well alight - - following one collapse - myself and another firefighter where tasked with cooling debris in the cellars that contained some gas cylinders - we had been there some considerable time , and where located in what was the front entrance hall .

we both clearly heard a voice tell us that the refreshment wagon had arrived and to get a cup of tea , at the time we took little notice of WHO ( or as you will see possibly what ?? ) called to us , noticing only a vague shape that was passing the door ( assumed a firefighter of course ) - well we downed the branch and went in search of a brew - and ended up with a bollocking from a senior officer for leaving our post , as the refreshment wagon had not even LEFT base !! - somewhat annoyed we returned to our former position only to find a heavy cast iron bath ( which we later found out from the owner had been 3 floors up ) sat right where we would have been stood - had it not been for the voice - for sure it would have injured or even killed us !!

perplexed we waited till all crews downed tools for a meal and asked WHO had called to us ?? - all we got where blank looks and mutterings of what the hell are they on about ??- however both of us will swear in any court as to the truth of this incident .

the ""logical " explanation of course is that one of those present on the fire ground DID call to us - but why when the refreshment van was obviously NOT on site ( you could hardly miss the thing ) - and also why did he not speak out when the question was asked ?? - after all again he would have to of held rank to issue such an order as to break off from a task , and whilst I also held rank at that time - it was hardly likely that i would have outranked him - so why not speak up - even if in private later ??

the "illogical " explanation of course was that some entity ?? maybe even a ghostly fire fighter ?? :o - was looking out for us and gave the warning - thinking back now whilst relating this , the person who called to us did not look somehow quite "right " uniform wise - but as i said at the time we did not look to closely - only thinking of a drink after several hours of work

the hotel has no known record of any paranormal activity - or any reported occurrences since ( as far as i know )

any ways make of it what you will - the fact is i am still here to tell the tale and am glad whoever did call to us was around - mortal or otherwise :shock:

can you imagine what the skeptics would make of this one ??? :roll:
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Re: a voice that saved my a**

Postby ciscop » 07 Aug 2009, 02:38

well i am a skeptic
and i like your story
quite interesting :)
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Re: a voice that saved my a**

Postby brett » 07 Aug 2009, 03:43

ciscop wrote:well i am a skeptic
and i like your story
quite interesting :)


thanks - no disrespect in that last remark - but it is an incident that leaves itself wide open for debunking ( even I realise that ) - except it is true - and i guess really just some more "anecdotal " evidence of odd things occurring - certainly it could be regarded as coincidental that the bath fell when it did - but when we returned and looked at each other , instantly realising the implications of what had happened , AND following it up with enquiry that proved fruitless , it certainly made US wonder if this was more than just chance ?? - unfortunately its another of those "you had to be there " incidents - unprovable now of course after all this time - but very real to those involved - just another one to ponder ;)

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Re: a voice that saved my a**

Postby ciscop » 07 Aug 2009, 04:00

yep
im not interested in debunking personal anecdotes
i like them

this one in particular
is quite amazing


have you heard voices again or just that one time?
was it a man´s voice?
do you remember the tone?
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Re: a voice that saved my a**

Postby NinjaPuppy » 07 Aug 2009, 05:33

Very cool!
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Re: a voice that saved my a**

Postby brett » 07 Aug 2009, 12:50

ciscop wrote:yep
im not interested in debunking personal anecdotes
i like them

this one in particular
is quite amazing


have you heard voices again or just that one time?
was it a man´s voice?
do you remember the tone?


no i have never heard a "physical" voice again since warning ?? me of impending danger ( it was a mans voice and the tone seemed casual as is the case with experienced fire fighters ) - however - i have had the "inner" voice that tells one that something is not quite right many times since ( the what i call "gut feeling " voice - which has served me well ) - and it COULD be argued that this incident was merely a projection of that , except for the fact that both of us heard the voice in question and it did not seem out of place at the time .

for those of you puzzling over this one , phenomena like this have been recorded occasionally - i have heard of other people in potentially life threatening situations hearing a "spoken " warning -and even having an encounter with a stranger ,who warned them of such , there is a story of someone who was due to sail on the titanic who met a figure on the dock that warned him not to sail on the ill fated ship , which , he apparently took notice of, and subsequent events proved the "man ??? " to be correct - if i remember the tale correctly , the person who gave the warning also had something about him that did not look "quite right " ( uniform or some such - but definitely out of place )

i must confess this incident has puzzled me since it happened and although of course i can not prove it was any sort of "non corporeal " being that issued the command , thus undoubtedly saving our lives - it does make me question if there IS in fact more to the "guardian angel " ( for want of a better description ) scenario ?? - and its connection to the interconnectedness of all things - as would my life have been different , with all the things that have happened in my life since , had it NOT been for the voice ??
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Re: a voice that saved my a**

Postby NinjaPuppy » 07 Aug 2009, 19:34

brett wrote:i have had the "inner" voice that tells one that something is not quite right many times since ( the what i call "gut feeling " voice - which has served me well )


Yes, that 'gut feeling'. I believe everyone has this but many ignore it. IMO it's hightened in police officers and firefighters and also mothers. I find it amazing. Do you have any theories on it? In your particular case, do you find it to be an actual voice in your head? Mine start out as a knot in my chest that stops me cold (kind of like a mini-panic attack). For me it's more of a physical feeling with very little thought process involved.
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Re: a voice that saved my a**

Postby brett » 07 Aug 2009, 22:38

difficult to describe really - some times its more like an "idea" or a sense that something is wrong - sometimes its more physical , what we used to call an ( please excuse the language ) "ass twitchier" - depends on the situation , your point about mothers is interesting , presumably you have the same sort of "radar " when your kids are standing into danger ?? - and you don't always need to be able to see them to scene it ??

certainly I have a "sixth sense " ( another term for the same thing ) - about people and get that little twinge when dealing with a fake or a wrong un - hummm odd this thread is suddenly branching out into other areas of thought and possibilities , is it all a hang over from our cave men days when i suspect humans had much more developed danger senses that we generally need today - or is it some outside agency ?? -of course the sKeptics would say its all in our mind - probably true , but originating inside or out ?? :?
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Re: a voice that saved my a**

Postby NinjaPuppy » 07 Aug 2009, 23:37

brett wrote:difficult to describe really - some times its more like an "idea" or a sense that something is wrong - sometimes its more physical , what we used to call an ( please excuse the language ) "ass twitchier" - depends on the situation , your point about mothers is interesting , presumably you have the same sort of "radar " when your kids are standing into danger ?? - and you don't always need to be able to see them to scene it ??


Some of the stories I have heard can be pretty remarkable.

is it all a hang over from our cave men days when i suspect humans had much more developed danger senses that we generally need today - or is it some outside agency ?? -of course the sKeptics would say its all in our mind - probably true , but originating inside or out ?? :?


I have often wondered that exact question. Knowing that the human appendix has become obsolete due to evolution, is it such a stretch to think that intuition or psychic ability hasn't gone the same way?
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Re: a voice that saved my a**

Postby Scepcop » 08 Aug 2009, 02:21

Wow that's an amazing account. I wonder why this "entity" or "being" that told you that the refreshment van was here, didn't just yell "Danger! Get out!" instead? Why did he have to use deception rather than the truth?
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Re: a voice that saved my a**

Postby brett » 08 Aug 2009, 02:55

Scepcop wrote:Wow that's an amazing account. I wonder why this "entity" or "being" that told you that the refreshment van was here, didn't just yell "Danger! Get out!" instead? Why did he have to use deception rather than the truth?


that's a VERY good point and one until now i had not considered as we have set procedures for warning of and responding to danger in the fire service - maybe he /it/whatever did not want to alarm us - or conversely that it may have believed ,WE may not have taken any notice ?? - possibly reasoning that the lure of a drink after many hours was more powerful than a warning about something ,which at that time was not evident as a danger - a student of human psychology may be ?? of just a former fire fighter who knew how firefighters think and prioritise .lol ( sod the job - wheres the tea ?? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: )
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Re: a voice that saved my a**

Postby Scepcop » 08 Aug 2009, 03:08

Maybe the universe works in mysterious ways. Often, truth is not direct and clear cut or upfront, but works in subtle ways that don't make sense to the thinking mind.

I think Lao Tzu, the founder of Taoism, said that ultimate truth can never be revealed to the rational logical mind and cannot be understood that way.

Perhaps this is one of those Zen koans, as to why the spirit saved you from harm this way. Or maybe it has a sense of humor?
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Re: a voice that saved my a**

Postby brett » 08 Aug 2009, 03:43

or maybe it was a "demon" who knew we would get a bollocking for leaving our post without "official " permission ?? - ( after all there ARE supposed to be mischievous spirits and even down right evil ones ) - anything is possible ;)

talking of which , i must relate my other fire service tale of the paranormal when i have time - you will love it - and is in part what got me interested in all this stuff ;) ( bit of a long story with a few "coincidences mind you )
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Re: a voice that saved my a**

Postby Scepcop » 15 Aug 2009, 22:57

Brett, this article about premonitions I just posted might shed some light about what happened to you when you were a firefighter.

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=318
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Re: a voice that saved my a**

Postby brett » 15 Aug 2009, 23:35

Scepcop wrote:Brett, this article about premonitions I just posted might shed some light about what happened to you when you were a firefighter.

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=318


most interesting :D and that very telling comment by a skeptic "this is the sort of thing i would not believe in - even if it where true " - bout sums it up really :roll:

thanks for sharing :D :D
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