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Two Predictions that have come TRUE!!!!

Postby The Professor » 03 Aug 2009, 03:42

I will soon be releasing videos of two predictions that I've made in public on open forums that have come true.
I will also discuss the Caley Antony murder and how DREAMS have played an important part in the case.
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Re: Two Predictions that have come TRUE!!!!

Postby ciscop » 03 Aug 2009, 16:48

just to take in mind
the professor and highflyer
which is the same person

only makes the youtube videos public
AFTER the predictions becomes true
he always do this
he doesnt fool anybody but himself

this isnt magiccafe
i can tell everybody about this well known method of hwo to do an ¨open¨ prediction
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Re: Two Predictions that have come TRUE!!!!

Postby Scepcop » 03 Aug 2009, 22:31

Is he able to prove that the predictions were made before the event? If they are posted in the forums, then is the prediction post dated before the event, which can be confirmed by the forum records?
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Re: Two Predictions that have come TRUE!!!!

Postby ciscop » 04 Aug 2009, 05:38

Scepcop wrote:Is he able to prove that the predictions were made before the event? If they are posted in the forums, then is the prediction post dated before the event, which can be confirmed by the forum records?


look
this is how he does it, it is magic trick and this is the method
on the magiccafe it was forbidden to post methods in magic, i believe is important to know the use of these methods to avoid people cheating and lying like the professor does.
he posts many predictions videos, like the top 5 likely scores of a match
then he makes the youtube videos private so nobody could see them
then he waits until one of those predictions becomes true
then he makes the prediction public and brags about him being able to predict the game or match in magiccafe but always the link to the video is posted AFTER the prediction becomes true...
by the way he says this predictions come when he sits on devils chair (i dont know what that is) and drinks crystal skull vodka

but you will never see him making an open public prediction of something that is unlikely
the only open predictions he makes are the easy ones.. like.. the Harry Potter theme park in Universal will be huge and very popular (with the movies being the highest grossing movies EVER and the books being so popular that is very likely and very unimpressive for a prediction)

i also think when his wife was pregnant he predicted she was going to have a baby
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Re: Two Predictions that have come TRUE!!!!

Postby NinjaPuppy » 04 Aug 2009, 06:10

ciscop wrote:...but you will never see him making an open public prediction of something that is unlikely the only open predictions he makes are the easy ones.. like.. the Harry Potter theme park in Universal will be huge and very popular (with the movies being the highest grossing movies EVER and the books being so popular that is very likely and very unimpressive for a prediction)...


Yes, I do not recall any public predictions posted here from this gentleman. Thank you for your insight into the art of YouTube predictions. It's quite good actually. Something like that would never occur to me but then again, I don't take much stock in anything I see on YouTube as hard core fact.

Judging a persons psychic ability from the type of predictions they make can be fairly obvious to the average person. I personally prefer to see the person make the prediction as best they can before the event. I'm not particular about how general or precise their prediction is as a person has got to start somewhere within their own comfort zone. Discouraging someone from making a declaration of a psychic prediction by fear of failure or ridicule is not ok in my book.

Perhaps The Professor is creating some theatrical suspense before he jots down his predictions here? After all, he is an entertainer and is responsible for showmanship. If his new topic with his predictions do play out to fit your scenario, then you have made us all the wiser.

I look forward to the reveal.
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Re: Two Predictions that have come TRUE!!!!

Postby ciscop » 04 Aug 2009, 06:54

im glad you like the reveal
you should try it for your friends some times.. it is quite funny
but it isnt real

yeah im not saying theres no psychic ability
im just saying Dave Koenig. the professor
isnt a psychic
he is just pulling out a performance
and is lying saying ¨those predictions become true¨

at the cafe his buddies would have erased the method
it is funny he cant do anything to avoid people knowing his ways on this forum
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Re: Two Predictions that have come TRUE!!!!

Postby Ozz » 05 Aug 2009, 22:14

I'm not sure if the method used by The Professor is the same as the one detailed by ciscop, but there are certainly methods known to magicians for making apparent predictions via YouTube.

I have no interest in debunking anyone who believes they have a had a genuine paranormal experience, but it is becoming increasingly obvious that Dave is using conjuring techniques and attempting to sell them as paranormal phenomenon. This is extremely dishonest, and he deserves to be exposed for his actions.
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Re: Two Predictions that have come TRUE!!!!

Postby ciscop » 06 Aug 2009, 00:12

yeah..
you might be right ozz
he also uses some other methods
but i have also busted him using the witches almanac

lets wait and watch
nothing he does is paranormal anyway

he still jumps to the question
what is your paranormal claim?
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Re: Two Predictions that have come TRUE!!!!

Postby NinjaPuppy » 06 Aug 2009, 02:58

Ozz wrote:I'm not sure if the method used by The Professor is the same as the one detailed by ciscop, but there are certainly methods known to magicians for making apparent predictions via YouTube.

I have no interest in debunking anyone who believes they have a had a genuine paranormal experience, but it is becoming increasingly obvious that Dave is using conjuring techniques and attempting to sell them as paranormal phenomenon. This is extremely dishonest, and he deserves to be exposed for his actions.


Can you please explain the term 'conjuring techniques'? I tried to get a definition but it's somewhat vague. From what I could find it is a way of describing magic tricks or props used in magic.
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Re: Two Predictions that have come TRUE!!!!

Postby Ozz » 06 Aug 2009, 08:21

NinjaPuppy wrote:Can you please explain the term 'conjuring techniques'? I tried to get a definition but it's somewhat vague. From what I could find it is a way of describing magic tricks or props used in magic.


You are partly correct. Conjuring techniques are the tricks, gimmicks and sleights used by magicians to achieve their miracles. Essentially, any prop or skill used by a magician to assist in deceiving the audience.
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Re: Two Predictions that have come TRUE!!!!

Postby ciscop » 06 Aug 2009, 15:13

yep
and what ninjapuppy should know also is that dave koenig
the professor is a magician (a crappy one)
so he uses conjuring tecniques to fool the audiences and say is all psychic or paranormal
he isnt.. he is just a bad magician abusing the knowledge of conjuring

keep it going dave
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Re: Two Predictions that have come TRUE!!!!

Postby NinjaPuppy » 06 Aug 2009, 23:16

Ozz wrote:You are partly correct. Conjuring techniques are the tricks, gimmicks and sleights used by magicians to achieve their miracles. Essentially, any prop or skill used by a magician to assist in deceiving the audience.


Thanks Ozz.

OK, now let's go forward... I put the words 'deceiving' and 'miracles' in bold above. IMO, when I go to see a 'magician' on stage, I do not go there with the expectation of seeing 'miracles'. Are there any 'magicians' that publicly claim to do 'miracles'? I'm sure there is at least one out there. No argument from me on that.

But in general, it's not the industry standard. Am I correct?
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Re: Two Predictions that have come TRUE!!!!

Postby ciscop » 06 Aug 2009, 23:54

kind of...
there is a whole association called ¨psychic entertainers¨ in usa
they go ¨for real¨
they pretty much use the same methods mentalists and magicians use (a lot of them use Bascom Jones Magic magazine or richard webster books)
but they attribute it to psychic powers.

and yes, when you go to a magician
you expect to be deceived for fun, you know is tricks
but these guys play on the line of the ¨possible/impossible¨
and dont want to be labeled as a magician... which they are
after all they are using magic tricks

they hide behind the ¨entertainer¨ label, for them, thats his disclaimer if or when you catch them red handed
but you can be sure, they all are using tricks.
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Re: Two Predictions that have come TRUE!!!!

Postby NinjaPuppy » 07 Aug 2009, 05:18

ciscop wrote:kind of...
there is a whole association called ¨psychic entertainers¨ in usa
they go ¨for real¨
they pretty much use the same methods mentalists and magicians use (a lot of them use Bascom Jones Magic magazine or richard webster books)
but they attribute it to psychic powers.

t...hey hide behind the ¨entertainer¨ label, for them, thats his disclaimer if or when you catch them red handed
but you can be sure, they all are using tricks.


OK, good explanation, thanks.

Now since the word 'entertainers' is attached to 'psychic' doesn't that give a different definition? I mean that person isn't saying they are a psychic but a psychic entertainer. Isn't this just a twist on a marketing concept or a style?

Example: Grunge singer vs. opera singer. Both singers by definition but obviously VERY different in style and perceived talent.
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Re: Two Predictions that have come TRUE!!!!

Postby NinjaPuppy » 07 Aug 2009, 06:20

ciscop wrote:yep
and what ninjapuppy should know also is that dave koenig
the professor is a magician (a crappy one)


Please give me credit for having enough gray matter between my ears for being able to make this connection (the Professor is a magician or at least he has a high level of interest in being a magician). However, since I have never seen his act, I can not personally evaluate the quality of his talents to comment. I take it that you have seen his act to make such an evaluation? When asking for proof to substantiate a claim, it works both ways. In order for me to take your beliefs into consideration (Dave's a crappy magician) I require proof that your claims are substantiated by at the very least your personal opinion based on actually experiencing his act.

I will not argue that The Professor has made claims that have not been backed up by any proof. I have experienced this in many topics myself. Do I agree with members hounding him until he provides this proof on this forum? No. Sometimes 'no answer' when asking for proof is all the proof I need for now and the rest will be revealed later. Name calling or accusing someone or twisting words doesn't get you any closer to getting any proof. At this point do I really care if he provides his proof? Well... it sure would be interesting but I have grown tired of the constant pissing contests that I have to read through in too many threads to really care anymore.

so he uses conjuring tecniques to fool the audiences and say is all psychic or paranormal
he isnt.. he is just a bad magician abusing the knowledge of conjuring


How common is this with magicians? Is it coming to be an industry standard or do others do this as a selling point in their acts? As I said, I have no way of knowing how his claims on this forum fit in with what he actually does as an act. I have ascertained from his posts here that I personally have trouble understanding what he is trying to say most of the time and sometimes I don't have a clue what he's saying. Does that make him a liar? No. It makes him someone with poor written communication skills. Not that I agree with much of what he has posted here either, when he does seem clear. Poor written communication skills does not make an excuse for bad behavior either.
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