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Postby NinjaPuppy » 16 Oct 2009, 03:06

The TV air waves are full of them. Here's a little video about Peter Popoff-



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYdlX_Wn1K4
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Re: TV Evangelical Types

Postby NinjaPuppy » 16 Oct 2009, 03:10

What I'd like to know is how people go from being asked for a $27 donation to sending $4,300 (their last dime) and how long does it take them to send an amount of money like that to these ministries? It's not covered in the information.

Not to mention the claim of being brain washed by a TV show.
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Re: TV Evangelical Types

Postby ciscop » 16 Oct 2009, 06:49

i posted about a guy like this..
viewtopic.php?f=22&t=475

but unlike popoff that is a Great scam artist
this guy didnt make money at all..
he is the funniest guy ever, well.. while he was preaching.. he bursted into yells and screams.. with hilarious rants of being visited by demons (just like highflyer)

i should add.. that this guy is now on jail for touching kids
:-( which isnt funny nor cool at all
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Re: TV Evangelical Types

Postby ProfWag » 20 Oct 2009, 01:58

NinjaPuppy wrote:What I'd like to know is how people go from being asked for a $27 donation to sending $4,300 (their last dime) and how long does it take them to send an amount of money like that to these ministries? It's not covered in the information.

Not to mention the claim of being brain washed by a TV show.

C'mon Ninja, the $27 is for special healing power water blessed by God himself through Peter that was poured from the miraculous water fawcet. It wasn't just a donation... ;-)
Can I get an AMEN!
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Re: TV Evangelical Types

Postby NinjaPuppy » 20 Oct 2009, 02:30

ProfWag wrote:
NinjaPuppy wrote:What I'd like to know is how people go from being asked for a $27 donation to sending $4,300 (their last dime) and how long does it take them to send an amount of money like that to these ministries? It's not covered in the information.

Not to mention the claim of being brain washed by a TV show.

C'mon Ninja, the $27 is for special healing power water blessed by God himself through Peter that was poured from the miraculous water fawcet. It wasn't just a donation... ;-)
Can I get an AMEN!

AMEN BROTHER! Now, what about the claims of being brain washed by a TV show? Since this is the second time I've read about brainwarshin' via unusual means. Do I need pour this special water on my brain? Will it prevent swine flu? Mang, what a day around here. What - a - day - !
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Re: TV Evangelical Types

Postby ProfWag » 20 Oct 2009, 02:58

NinjaPuppy wrote:
ProfWag wrote:
NinjaPuppy wrote:What I'd like to know is how people go from being asked for a $27 donation to sending $4,300 (their last dime) and how long does it take them to send an amount of money like that to these ministries? It's not covered in the information.

Not to mention the claim of being brain washed by a TV show.

C'mon Ninja, the $27 is for special healing power water blessed by God himself through Peter that was poured from the miraculous water fawcet. It wasn't just a donation... ;-)
Can I get an AMEN!

AMEN BROTHER! Now, what about the claims of being brain washed by a TV show? Since this is the second time I've read about brainwarshin' via unusual means. Do I need pour this special water on my brain? Will it prevent swine flu? Mang, what a day around here. What - a - day - !

Some people have that charisma to get people to do what they want to do. Truthfully, this is a good example of what being a skeptic is all about. If people would use critical thinking, they would not have sent this person $4,000. Not thinking critically costs people money and so many other things.
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Re: TV Evangelical Types

Postby ciscop » 20 Oct 2009, 03:10

exactly
that is why i find it so hilarious
when people on this forum sometimes write ¨he is a very likeable and charming guy¨ to use it as an argument
charisma means nothing
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Re: TV Evangelical Types

Postby NinjaPuppy » 20 Oct 2009, 03:15

Critical thinking? Isn't that a fancy way to say common sense?

You know, the old sayings. "Ain't no such thing as a free lunch", "If it sounds too good to be true, it usually is", "don't drink the Kool-Aid", and that kind of thing?
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Re: TV Evangelical Types

Postby ProfWag » 20 Oct 2009, 03:25

NinjaPuppy wrote:Critical thinking? Isn't that a fancy way to say common sense?

You know, the old sayings. "Ain't no such thing as a free lunch", "If it sounds too good to be true, it usually is", "don't drink the Kool-Aid", and that kind of thing?

I think I'll respectfully disagree with you on this one if that's okay. I think they are two distinctly different babies. Borrowing from wikipedia (though I don't usually like to cite that site), "critical thinking employs not only logic but broad intellectual criteria such as clarity, credibility, accuracy, precision, relevance, depth, breadth, significance and fairness."
Common sense, on the other hand means different things to different people. To a person raised in a strict Catholic upbringing, it is common sense to not eat meat on Fridays between Mardi Gras and whatever the hell day it is 40 days after the hangover (that may be what they call "Easter"). To someone not raised Catholic, then avoiding Texas Road House on a Friday night makes no sense whatsoever.
Although in the case of your example, it should have been common sense to not send them money, but again, if you were the child of my Uncle Henry, it might have made perfect sense to spend $27 on a thimble full of tap water. But you really need to know my Uncle Henry. Quick, true story if I may. Uncle Henry lives in coal minor country in Pennsylvania. Uncle Henry told me it was common sense to not put my money in a bank. "If yo' money was so safe, why do they need that there insurance? No sir, don't trust them banks. Never did, never will." So, Uncle Henry sold his boat for $10,000. What to do with this cash, what to do? So, instead of putting his money in a bank, he hid it in the top of an old HIckory Tree. Long story short, Rocky and his band of squirrels made his cash look like shredder material and they made a nice little nest out of it. Guess that's how they came up with the term "nest egg," from ol' Uncle Henry. Anyway, what's common sense to you and I, may not be common sense to Uncle Henry and others like him...
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Re: TV Evangelical Types

Postby ciscop » 20 Oct 2009, 03:32

ProfWag wrote:
NinjaPuppy wrote:Critical thinking? Isn't that a fancy way to say common sense?

You know, the old sayings. "Ain't no such thing as a free lunch", "If it sounds too good to be true, it usually is", "don't drink the Kool-Aid", and that kind of thing?

I think I'll respectfully disagree with you on this one if that's okay. I think they are two distinctly different babies. Borrowing from wikipedia (though I don't usually like to cite that site), "critical thinking employs not only logic but broad intellectual criteria such as clarity, credibility, accuracy, precision, relevance, depth, breadth, significance and fairness."
Common sense, on the other hand means different things to different people. To a person raised in a strict Catholic upbringing, it is common sense to not eat meat on Fridays between Mardi Gras and whatever the hell day it is 40 days after the hangover (that may be what they call "Easter"). To someone not raised Catholic, then avoiding Texas Road House on a Friday night makes no sense whatsoever.


i wonder if profwag is one of those professors that will give a student a lower grade if they deliver a paper quoting wikipedia....

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Re: TV Evangelical Types

Postby ProfWag » 20 Oct 2009, 04:01

ciscop wrote:
ProfWag wrote:
NinjaPuppy wrote:Critical thinking? Isn't that a fancy way to say common sense?

You know, the old sayings. "Ain't no such thing as a free lunch", "If it sounds too good to be true, it usually is", "don't drink the Kool-Aid", and that kind of thing?

I think I'll respectfully disagree with you on this one if that's okay. I think they are two distinctly different babies. Borrowing from wikipedia (though I don't usually like to cite that site), "critical thinking employs not only logic but broad intellectual criteria such as clarity, credibility, accuracy, precision, relevance, depth, breadth, significance and fairness."
Common sense, on the other hand means different things to different people. To a person raised in a strict Catholic upbringing, it is common sense to not eat meat on Fridays between Mardi Gras and whatever the hell day it is 40 days after the hangover (that may be what they call "Easter"). To someone not raised Catholic, then avoiding Texas Road House on a Friday night makes no sense whatsoever.


i wonder if profwag is one of those professors that will give a student a lower grade if they deliver a paper quoting wikipedia....

;)

You do not have to wonder any longer. I most certainly will. Did it 2 weeks ago as a matter of fact. I'm a VERY easy grader, but if I tell people not to use wikipedia, then the do, they get marked down quickly. It's a loss of 2 points on a 20 point research paper for using wikipedia as a reference, 6 points if it's their only references.
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Re: TV Evangelical Types

Postby NinjaPuppy » 20 Oct 2009, 04:41

ProfWag wrote:
NinjaPuppy wrote:Critical thinking? Isn't that a fancy way to say common sense?

You know, the old sayings. "Ain't no such thing as a free lunch", "If it sounds too good to be true, it usually is", "don't drink the Kool-Aid", and that kind of thing?

I think I'll respectfully disagree with you on this one if that's okay. I think they are two distinctly different babies. Borrowing from wikipedia (though I don't usually like to cite that site), "critical thinking employs not only logic but broad intellectual criteria such as clarity, credibility, accuracy, precision, relevance, depth, breadth, significance and fairness."
Common sense, on the other hand means different things to different people. To a person raised in a strict Catholic upbringing, it is common sense to not eat meat on Fridays between Mardi Gras and whatever the hell day it is 40 days after the hangover (that may be what they call "Easter"). To someone not raised Catholic, then avoiding Texas Road House on a Friday night makes no sense whatsoever.
Although in the case of your example, it should have been common sense to not send them money, but again, if you were the child of my Uncle Henry, it might have made perfect sense to spend $27 on a thimble full of tap water. But you really need to know my Uncle Henry. Quick, true story if I may. Uncle Henry lives in coal minor country in Pennsylvania. Uncle Henry told me it was common sense to not put my money in a bank. "If yo' money was so safe, why do they need that there insurance? No sir, don't trust them banks. Never did, never will." So, Uncle Henry sold his boat for $10,000. What to do with this cash, what to do? So, instead of putting his money in a bank, he hid it in the top of an old HIckory Tree. Long story short, Rocky and his band of squirrels made his cash look like shredder material and they made a nice little nest out of it. Guess that's how they came up with the term "nest egg," from ol' Uncle Henry. Anyway, what's common sense to you and I, may not be common sense to Uncle Henry and others like him...

Gee, we may be cousins-in-law there ProfWag. My children are from decendents of miners, and I fully understand that whole bank thing. At least old Uncle Henry only lost $10,000 to those fuzzy tailed Donald Trumps. During my previous divorce, a forensic accountant was looking for a few hundred thousand that couldn't be accounted for in any bank. I believe it's sitting in some coffee can in the ground, somewhere.

I also recall sitting around with the family as they told the story of how they lost money in a polka scam: http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/t ... 0x3NiJvqwK. So yes, you are correct. Common sense and critical thinking are not one and the same.
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Re: TV Evangelical Types

Postby ProfWag » 20 Oct 2009, 05:25

Although I love him as my own, Uncle Henry is my spousal unit's Uncle. Ya gotta love those people up there.
That's hilarious about the ponzi scheme. I thought it said poker at first...
My spousal unit's family is from the Pottsville area in PA. Home of Yuengling, America's First Brewery (and still the best!)
Okay, back to our regularly scheduled TV Evangelical program... ;-)
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Re: TV Evangelical Types

Postby ciscop » 20 Oct 2009, 06:51

well.. she isnt a TV Evangelist
but she was part of Jesus Camp documentary

quite a frightening movie to watch

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSwZJ55g80Q&feature=related[/youtube]
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Re: TV Evangelical Types

Postby NinjaPuppy » 20 Oct 2009, 08:03

ciscop wrote:well.. she isnt a TV Evangelist
but she was part of Jesus Camp documentary

quite a frightening movie to watch

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSwZJ55g80Q&feature=related[/youtube]
Warlocks are enemies of god!!

Jesus camp is a big thing in the southern US. Scary!
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