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Did you know that contrary to Christian belief, Christianity actually makes you less spiritual? The whole religion is completely FEAR BASED - fear of God, fear of not being saved, fear that you will be sent to hell for not believing, fear of punishment, etc. Fear does not make one spiritual. It lowers their energy and consciousness level, which makes you WEAKER and LESS spiritual, not more.
Did you know that most ancient religions before Christianity taught that everything was interconnected at the deepest level, and not separate? Man was seen as one with creation. Everything was interdependent. This was the ancient spiritual view. When Christianity came, it taught the opposite, that we were all separate, and that God was separate from us. He was some being "out there" to be feared and obeyed. This became very useful to the ruling elite, who helped tailor design Christianity to suit their purpose - to make people feel obligated to submit to higher authorities, such as the Catholic Church and the Pope. They twisted what Jesus said to suit their purpose of rule and control. The history documents that show how Christianity changed over time reveal this agenda.
The form of Christianity that became orthodox taught SEPARATENESS and FEAR, which was NOT spiritual. It was used for CONTROL. And thus, it was used to try to dominate and enslave other primitive cultures such as the Native Americans, African Tribes, Amazonian Tribes, etc. Do you think the Catholic Church send Missionaries to convert primitive tribes because they cared about them? Do you think they were motivated by altruism? These Missionary campaigns tried to wipe out the ancient spiritual traditions of the primitive tribes too, replacing their connection with nature with organized religion based on fear and separateness.
Check out this story of a Missionary who deconverted from Christianity after realizing that the natives were more spiritual than him, and that his beliefs were wrong.
His book info on Amazon.com:
http://www.amazon.com/Dont-Sleep-There- ... 274&sr=8-1
A riveting account of the astonishing experiences and discoveries made by linguist Daniel Everett while he lived with the Pirahã, a small tribe of Amazonian Indians in central Brazil. Daniel Everett arrived among the Pirahã with his wife and three young children hoping to convert the tribe to Christianity. Everett quickly became obsessed with their language and its cultural and linguistic implications. The Pirahã have no counting system, no fixed terms for color, no concept of war, and no personal property. Everett was so impressed with their peaceful way of life that he eventually lost faith in the God he'd hoped to introduce to them, and instead devoted his life to the science of linguistics. Part passionate memoir, part scientific exploration, Everett's life-changing tale is riveting look into the nature of language, thought, and life itself.
“Devotion to the truth is the hallmark of morality; there is no greater, nobler, more heroic form of devotion than the act of a man who assumes the responsibility of thinking.” - Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
If you want spirituality in the context of Christianity you have to look at the Gnostics. There are always secret schools within religions that, if studied diligently, can be used to access expanded consciousness.
If you think you know what's going on you're probably full of shit - Robert Anton Wilson
This is not true. Maybe some did, but ask the Jews, the Greeks and the Romans about that and they may have given you a different answer.
I think Scepcop is not being listed to. BEFORE christianity....before. Also, that "before" could be talking of the real tribes...true blood of a region...like INDIANS. If one looks at a true blood of any culture, there is a stronger belief of whole connectedness. There still is in many areas of the world.
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Those examples I gave were BEFORE christianity. I didn't deny that some cultures pre-christianity taught interconnectedness. But I listed some pretty dominant pre-christian cultures that didn't.
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