victorious wrote:this also reminds me of Jesus speaking to the Pharisees in figures of speech. to THEM, parables were like "what is He saying??"; to the UNBELIEVERS of this time, the Holy Bible is already a complete set of figures of speech where word per word is a mystery. guys, you're studying the Bible, right? looking for inconsistencies because you hate it? if so, may i rhetorically ask: Why would a man raise a child only because he does not want a child? (does it make any sense?hmmm...)
I don't hate the bible I do detest the zealots that believe it their right to use it as a suppository on the rest of the world however.
As to your note about raising a child someone doesn't want. . . you have me rather confused. Isn't it the christian "moralists" that insist on people raising unwanted children? The pro-lifer types that want everyone to respect the embryo and yet, they don't have a solution when it comes to taking care of this "life" that's not wanted by the mother or related family. Where's the "Christian" responsibility here? The church don't want to raise such children on their own budgets in a manner that is healthy and FREE. . . that is to say, with no strings attached. The church does NOTHING without demanding a person's soul. . . I always found that peculiar in that I've never seen a Pagan, Satanist or even Atheist require such a thing when it comes to people that are in need or being treated in inhumane ways . . . something I should point out (at least for those in denial) that the church (religious zealots, most oozing from the Abrahamic line) being one of the leading sources for; absurd cruelty and inhumanity for most of the past 1,700 or so years it has officially existed.
Yes, the bible is rife with inaccuracies, especially when it comes to actual history and historic time lines vs. the mythical time lines it insists on -- the facts don't match the claims -- the cities that Joshua supposed destroyed in Canaan did in deed collapse but not even remotely close to the time of the Exodus as the bible suggests and nowhere close to the same dates. . . there's nearly a 200 year span in time between the first collapse (Jericho) and the last of the famed cities falling. . . a 200+ year old warrior just don't fit in with the biblical tale nor history.
Stop reading the book and buying into what it says as absolute truth and start using the grey stuff god put between your ears. "Bible Study", at least for the honest soul, doesn't mean you are constantly reading and re-reading the scriptures but rather, you are learning about the text, where it came from, what the parallels are in the world and the fact that many such tales pre-date the actual inclusion of them into the canonized texts. It means you will look at the Editing and additions made by scribes and how deliberate license was taken when it comes to changing the name of the main characters (especially "Jesus") so that the tales would incorporate chief esoteric elements including Numerology, the multiple meaning of symbols and images such as Angels or "Beasts". Churchianity prohibits its patrons from asking about such things let alone studying and learning about the OCCULT side of their faith -- that hidden and quite dark aspect of the priesthood and the very carnal agenda it has.
When a magician makes a coin vanish he does so by way of misdirection; getting you to look where he wants you to look vs. where the truth exists. It is an act of deception and as such, the domain of the Devil. . . IF we are to consider what the scriptures imply, right?
Why then is this ultimate truth and infallible collection of lore, so well guarded and praised? Why is it promoted as the thing to see and watch and anything outside of it viewed as wrong and even "evil"?
The Devil/Satan is the master of deception and the best, most direct way to "win" his battle with God and Good would be to convince the world that his way is the ultimate good and truth -- the divine and most sacred while damning that which is the actual truth. . . the hand in which the vanished coin really rests or, as it were, the occult solution . . . the hidden reality we are all being told to deny and ignore.
The devil's greatest trick played on man wasn't proving he didn't exist but proving that he is the Father Creator All. . . and in so doing, lead us to believe that the true all loving parent of man is the lowly demon and fallen angel -- Lucifer.
Funny, how many wars and betrayals throughout history are NEVER blamed on said entity when it comes to the facts and yet, time and time again such acts of terrestrial hell are perpetuated by the very people who can't live within the tenets of the very gospels the espouse.
Peace on Earth could, in theory at least, be obtained if we but destroyed three texts and ways of thinking -- the Talmud, the complete Bible and the Koran. Obliterate all traces of the Abrahamic lie and promote a more Zen-based culture and within three generations at the most, we would know a far more balanced and benevolent world. Not so much a place of total peace in that man will always allow its ego to get the better of him and worldly lusts & conquests will forever be a temptation. However, without the auspices of religion, and specifically these three primary forms of cult-mindedness, a much wider and secure sense of peace would be known and true progress seen within the auspices of society.Here's the Twist. . .
I think it would be a crime to loose such texts because they are filled with wisdom and true greatness. It is man's abuse of "the words" and how he uses them as a means by which to justify carnal gain, domination, oppression of our fellows and so much more -- this is where the sin lays and the lie that envelopes the institutions built up and around their teachings; the sin of men trying to put their will into the expression of the divine.