Tanya wrote:Hi Arouet
I must say that, prima facie, it did seem that Scepcop was in the firing line of a bunch of Christian, fundamentalist, terrorist, sadists!
Really? I'm curious as to how you come to that conclusion, based on what we wrote. Can you point to a specific example or two? I read the comments the opposite of that!
There seemed to be a great deal of going out of their way to discredit the guy without having a great deal to back up their positions other than, 'we don't like the sound of that.'
Again, perhaps an example would help.
For what it's worth, I don't think he went too far at all! The Bible IS totalitarian, in every conceivable way. It's 'Follow the way, or go to Hell.' You can't get more totalitarian than that. Even Hitler didn't go that far!
Again, I hate defending the bible - but it's not totalitarian in every single way - certainly not when it comes to politics which is what I thought was Scepcop's point.
If you want to take a fundamentalist approach to the bible, you need to be careful about your intepretation of hell. It's not so clear in the actual text though of course many many many christians believe it to be the case. There are christians who don't interpret the bible as indicating a devil and hell in the traditional sense.
As for Hitler, I don't think he condemned people to hell, but I would think that killing people just because they were born into a certain religion is pretty on par with the worse of the bilbical god. In any event, you don't tend to go far defending Hitler!
Christians profess to follow the Bible, ergo - do the math. If they're not following the foundation point of their faith, what exactly are they following? Are you suggesting that they don't really think about what it is that they're supposed to be following?
Ummm, yes. Exactly.
It is a fact that 90% of Christians have never read the Bible - in which case, they're not really Christians.
I leave it to the christians to define themselves. Seems silly for non-chrisitans to do it for them! Different christians argue with each other over who the true christians are.
Bottom line - you can be a Bible-believing Christian and be a monster, or you can be a decent, moral and worthy contributor to society who simply assumes the label 'Christian' without really knowing what it means. But you can't be both...
I don't think just believing in the bible makes someone a monster. You've got to look at their actions, not just their thoughts.