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Re: Why Christianity is 100 Percent Anti-Freedom and Pro-Tyr

Postby Arouet » 06 Jul 2012, 00:50

Tanya wrote:Hi Arouet

I must say that, prima facie, it did seem that Scepcop was in the firing line of a bunch of Christian, fundamentalist, terrorist, sadists!


Really? I'm curious as to how you come to that conclusion, based on what we wrote. Can you point to a specific example or two? I read the comments the opposite of that!

There seemed to be a great deal of going out of their way to discredit the guy without having a great deal to back up their positions other than, 'we don't like the sound of that.'


Again, perhaps an example would help.

For what it's worth, I don't think he went too far at all! The Bible IS totalitarian, in every conceivable way. It's 'Follow the way, or go to Hell.' You can't get more totalitarian than that. Even Hitler didn't go that far!


Again, I hate defending the bible - but it's not totalitarian in every single way - certainly not when it comes to politics which is what I thought was Scepcop's point.

If you want to take a fundamentalist approach to the bible, you need to be careful about your intepretation of hell. It's not so clear in the actual text though of course many many many christians believe it to be the case. There are christians who don't interpret the bible as indicating a devil and hell in the traditional sense.

As for Hitler, I don't think he condemned people to hell, but I would think that killing people just because they were born into a certain religion is pretty on par with the worse of the bilbical god. In any event, you don't tend to go far defending Hitler!

Christians profess to follow the Bible, ergo - do the math. If they're not following the foundation point of their faith, what exactly are they following? Are you suggesting that they don't really think about what it is that they're supposed to be following?


Ummm, yes. Exactly.

It is a fact that 90% of Christians have never read the Bible - in which case, they're not really Christians.


I leave it to the christians to define themselves. Seems silly for non-chrisitans to do it for them! Different christians argue with each other over who the true christians are.

Bottom line - you can be a Bible-believing Christian and be a monster, or you can be a decent, moral and worthy contributor to society who simply assumes the label 'Christian' without really knowing what it means. But you can't be both...

Tanya


I don't think just believing in the bible makes someone a monster. You've got to look at their actions, not just their thoughts.
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Re: Why Christianity is 100 Percent Anti-Freedom and Pro-Tyr

Postby NinjaPuppy » 06 Jul 2012, 02:51

Tanya - Welcome!
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Re: Why Christianity is 100 Percent Anti-Freedom and Pro-Tyr

Postby Twain Shakespeare » 06 Jul 2012, 19:03

Welcome Tanya. My 1st prob with this thread is the word "Christianity" Any concept that includes pedophial priests, hillbilly snake handlers, traditional Jews, such as the Apostles, Martin Luther King, Loyola, George Bush, Anita Bryant, CS Lewis, James I, Brigham Young, Mary Baker Eddy, David Koresh, Ras Tafari, Leo Tolstoy, Michael Jackson, and Denzel Washington is pretty useless.

The distinction is SCECOP is primarily referring to the Nicean Creed. His comments about that are valid, and excusing the institution on the grounds that the laity knows better, or that pre- or post nicean Christianities are different, is avoiding his point. I refer again to Wilhelm Reich's Mass Psychology of Fascism for a complete and scientific theory of the intimate connections between Catholicim and Fascism.

If one wants to criticize on text, the point that someone should have made is THE CHRISTIAN INTERPRETATION OF THE TORAH IS CRAP!!!!! As I Jew, I know damn well some parts are children's stories ("If you misbehave, bears will eat you") some are action adventure comics, some are love stories, some are for adults, and some are desperate editorial attempts to tie the whole thing together intellectually. Christian mistook an anthology of historical and moral fiction for children as an inherent guide to the meaning of Life and the universe, etc. It is kind of amusing hearing goyim pontificate about these texts, but the joke wore thin well before Constantine. (Disgruntled.)

Love you all. Stick around, Tanya.
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Re: Why Christianity is 100 Percent Anti-Freedom and Pro-Tyr

Postby Arouet » 12 Jul 2012, 08:46

So was Tanya just a hit and run?
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Re: Why Christianity is 100 Percent Anti-Freedom and Pro-Tyr

Postby Craig Browning » 12 Jul 2012, 21:36

Arouet wrote:So was Tanya just a hit and run?


I'm betting that we either scared her off, she was too embarrassed to chime back in, or (drum role) she was a SPAM probe.
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Re: Why Christianity is 100 Percent Anti-Freedom and Pro-Tyr

Postby Arouet » 13 Jul 2012, 00:39

no, she wasn't a spambot for sure
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Re: Why Christianity is 100 Percent Anti-Freedom and Pro-Tyr

Postby NinjaPuppy » 13 Jul 2012, 02:44

Arouet wrote:no, she wasn't a spambot for sure

I'll second that statement. ;)
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Re: Why Christianity is 100 Percent Anti-Freedom and Pro-Tyr

Postby Craig Browning » 13 Jul 2012, 23:00

Arouet wrote:no, she wasn't a spambot for sure


How about a Robot? You went with the classic anti-christian arguments and then some :)
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Re: Why Christianity is 100 Percent Anti-Freedom and Pro-Tyr

Postby NinjaPuppy » 14 Jul 2012, 00:21

Craig Browning wrote:
Arouet wrote:no, she wasn't a spambot for sure


How about a Robot? You went with the classic anti-christian arguments and then some :)

Craig - Once again, allow me to explain....
Spambots are blocked from this place by anti-spambot software. This includes spam programs, spambots, robots and even R2D2 and his friend C3PO. What it doesn't do is block human beings with too much time on their hands from joining and posting whatever they like.

I have played a bit with the "User Controls" for new members and that stops the usual fast 'hit and run' sort of thing but anyone who is damned and determined to spam is going to take the time and/or find a way to post their flavor of spam. As I come across these spam posts, I manually delete the user ID and all of their posts. I realize that this doesn't mean a darned thing to you or any other member who has already been pissed off by these spam posts because y'all found them before I did. I do not live in your computer and I am not a robot so I can only zap them when I do my Moderator due diligence.
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Re: Why Christianity is 100 Percent Anti-Freedom and Pro-Tyr

Postby NinjaPuppy » 14 Jul 2012, 00:42

Now as to any particular poster being 'real' vs. a human spammer, it comes down to their actual intent. Some people come across as genuine to avoid suspicion and then surprise you by pulling certain stunts such as going back days later and adding spam links. This works in their favor when it comes to the different bots that set website rankings. The spam site goes up in ranking and ours can possibly go down if it's full of crap spam that has nothing to do with the actual contents or topics.

To deter this, I lock every single newbie post so it can't be altered after we humans have read it. I also make sure to go down the list of newbie posts on a regular basis to make sure that there is no double dipping. Members with duplicate IDs are banned. If my Spidey senses kick in as to their intent, I cross check their IP.

We do what we can to keep the rules here at a minimum.
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