View Active Topics          Latest 100 Topics          View Your Posts          Switch to Mobile

Hello from the owner of BadPsychics

Introduce yourself here!

Re: Hello from the owner of BadPsychics

Postby Eteponge » 18 Aug 2009, 17:10

Do you have the Shirley Ghostman Medium Spoofs on your website? Some of those skits had me literally rolling on the ground with laughter. Like when he "channels" Colonel Sanders, or when his "Spirit Guide" (a dog named Sheba) abandoned him (was suspended for biting a kid's face off in heaven) and he tried unsuccessfully to channel Adam of Adam and Eve and kept crying "Sheba, why have you forsaken me?"

Image
"I think Eteponge's Blog is a pretty cool guy. eh debates Skeptics and doesnt afraid of anything."
User avatar
Eteponge
 
Posts: 300
Joined: 06 Jun 2009, 13:26






Re: Hello from the owner of BadPsychics

Postby JonDonnis » 18 Aug 2009, 19:33

ciscop wrote:i am a huge fan of your work!
well done my friend

nice to see a skeptic coming here
have fun
there's quite cool stuff going on here in this site


HI
Glad you are a fan, nice to come across people who are aware of my sites.
JonDonnis
 
Posts: 27
Joined: 16 Aug 2009, 18:09

Re: Hello from the owner of BadPsychics

Postby JonDonnis » 18 Aug 2009, 19:39

Eteponge wrote:Do you have the Shirley Ghostman Medium Spoofs on your website? Some of those skits had me literally rolling on the ground with laughter. Like when he "channels" Colonel Sanders, or when his "Spirit Guide" (a dog named Sheba) abandoned him (was suspended for biting a kid's face off in heaven) and he tried unsuccessfully to channel Adam of Adam and Eve and kept crying "Sheba, why have you forsaken me?"

Image


We had all the best Ghostman vids on this page
http://badpsychics.co.uk/thefraudfiles/ ... toryid=219
They have since been removed by teh user, however I just put some back on for you.
JonDonnis
 
Posts: 27
Joined: 16 Aug 2009, 18:09

Re: Hello from the owner of BadPsychics

Postby Eteponge » 18 Aug 2009, 23:22

JonDonnis wrote:We had all the best Ghostman vids on this page
http://badpsychics.co.uk/thefraudfiles/ ... toryid=219
They have since been removed by teh user, however I just put some back on for you.

Awesome! You seem to have missed a good one on YouTube though, where Shirley "debates" Skeptic Christopher French and later goes into his Colonel Sanders channeling mode (starting at 2:30 in the clip), hahaha ...



Damn, I wish they still had the one up where he does his LONG Colonel Sanders channeling skit (that one had me rolling), and the clips with his "Spirit Guide" Sheba going missing and him trying to channel "Adam of Adam and Eve" and saying, "Give me a chance! Sheba, why have you forsaken me!" over and over. XD

Those don't seem to be anywhere online anymore, sadly.
"I think Eteponge's Blog is a pretty cool guy. eh debates Skeptics and doesnt afraid of anything."
User avatar
Eteponge
 
Posts: 300
Joined: 06 Jun 2009, 13:26

Re: Hello from the owner of BadPsychics

Postby JonDonnis » 19 Aug 2009, 17:00

Eteponge wrote:
JonDonnis wrote:We had all the best Ghostman vids on this page
http://badpsychics.co.uk/thefraudfiles/ ... toryid=219
They have since been removed by teh user, however I just put some back on for you.

Awesome! You seem to have missed a good one on YouTube though, where Shirley "debates" Skeptic Christopher French and later goes into his Colonel Sanders channeling mode (starting at 2:30 in the clip), hahaha ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQhzHf7ytEQ

Damn, I wish they still had the one up where he does his LONG Colonel Sanders channeling skit (that one had me rolling), and the clips with his "Spirit Guide" Sheba going missing and him trying to channel "Adam of Adam and Eve" and saying, "Give me a chance! Sheba, why have you forsaken me!" over and over. XD

Those don't seem to be anywhere online anymore, sadly.


Thanks have added that one too
I still laugh at Nick and Chris getting taken in, i would like to think I would never get fooled like they did, but then you never know.
I think sometimes even the best skeptics are so into the whole "I'm a skeptic" thing that they dont take a step back and ask themselves "Is someone taking the piss here?"
JonDonnis
 
Posts: 27
Joined: 16 Aug 2009, 18:09

Re: Hello from the owner of BadPsychics

Postby Eteponge » 20 Aug 2009, 04:25

JonDonnis wrote:Thanks have added that one too
I still laugh at Nick and Chris getting taken in, i would like to think I would never get fooled like they did, but then you never know.
I think sometimes even the best skeptics are so into the whole "I'm a skeptic" thing that they dont take a step back and ask themselves "Is someone taking the piss here?"

He also got Michael Shermer and Brian Dunning ...

http://skepticblog.org/2009/06/11/not-skeptical-enough/

"I was supposed to be the host and was giving some tests to three psychics, one of which turned out to be a character (”Shirley Ghostman”) of a UK comic named Marc Wootton, but of course I didn’t know that. For his final bit of zaniness, he channeled the spirit of actor Lee Majors who told of the afterlife (Lee Majors is not dead).

Later in the show, after “Shirley” had been “thrown out and escorted from the grounds” (so I believed), Michael and I were having our discussion, on camera, about my findings with the psychics. Suddenly the studio doors slammed open, and in ran Shirley, pushing a cart holding a bodybag! I knew that Shirley was unbalanced and belligerent, so I stood the hell back and expected that security was going to tackle him and get him out of there. No such thing happened. In fact, the film crew hardly reacted at all. Michael had not had my previous experience with Shirley, so he stepped up cheerfully and asked to see what was in the bag. After some tussling, they got it open, and there’s some guy with a desk calculator or something taped to his chest, and another to his arm: The Six Million Dollar Man. Shirley was right: Lee Majors had died, and here was the body to prove it.

At this point, Michael (clearly less naive than I) asked if he was being punked, if this whole day was a setup and a joke on him. I told him no, this was real, and this guy was just a nut.

I damn near called the police, because Shirley was as belligerent as ever demanding that I give him the $50,000 he claimed to have just won, and nobody on set seemed to take any interest in getting him out of there or in calling security."


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. XDDD

Image
"I think Eteponge's Blog is a pretty cool guy. eh debates Skeptics and doesnt afraid of anything."
User avatar
Eteponge
 
Posts: 300
Joined: 06 Jun 2009, 13:26

Re: Hello from the owner of BadPsychics

Postby Scepcop » 22 Aug 2009, 13:06

Hi JonDonnis,
So is your site endorsed by CSICOP, JREF and Michael Shermer?

Is its aim to prove that all psychics are false or only some of them?

What is an OTT?

About your forum, when I clicked on one of the threads or boards, it took me to a blank page where you could see the outline of the forum but no posts. Do you know why that might be?

Why don't you just host your own forum on your own server and run your own ads under your own control, like how I do here? You can download a free phpBB forum at http://www.phpbb.com. Or you can use vbulletin, but you have to pay for it. http://www.vbulletin.com

Installing a forum is a lot easier than you think. Then you can have control of whatever ads you want to put up to monetize your site.

Why does it cost so much to host your sites? If you use GoDaddy's deluxe package to host multiple sites, it's only like $7 a month, plus $9 a year for each domain name.

Thanks for posting the link here to your forum.

I would hope that I don't sound crazy promoting outrageous stories. lol I try to only present things that make sense, that are based on common sense, while keeping an open mind and admitting that there is a lot out there that we don't know, including other dimensions, planes of existence, etc. Remember, not even science can afford to keep a closed mind.

Thanks. You seem a lot more civil and amicable than most skeptics I know.

Vinstonas

PS - Do any psychics ever threaten to sue you for exposing them?
“Devotion to the truth is the hallmark of morality; there is no greater, nobler, more heroic form of devotion than the act of a man who assumes the responsibility of thinking.” - Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged
User avatar
Scepcop
Site Admin
 
Posts: 3256
Joined: 16 May 2009, 07:29

Re: Hello from the owner of BadPsychics

Postby JonDonnis » 30 Oct 2009, 05:13

Scepcop wrote:Hi JonDonnis,
So is your site endorsed by CSICOP, JREF and Michael Shermer?


When you say endorsed by, i dont know.
They link to my site, the JREF lists my site as a resource for people, and I am sure Mr Shermer has been to my site.
To be honest I care very little as to who links my site or who endorses it.
I am just your average blokewho left school at 16 who has a passion for exposing fraud.
I dont write books, i refuse to go on TV, ihave no interest in fame and fortune unlike pretty much all big name skeptics.

Is its aim to prove that all psychics are false or only some of them?


No, our aim is to find real psychics and real mediums.
The problem is we have yet to find one.

What is an OTT?

Over the Top????

About your forum, when I clicked on one of the threads or boards, it took me to a blank page where you could see the outline of the forum but no posts. Do you know why that might be?


You probably need to login as the majority of the forum is only available to members.

Why don't you just host your own forum on your own server and run your own ads under your own control, like how I do here? You can download a free phpBB forum at http://www.phpbb.com. Or you can use vbulletin, but you have to pay for it. http://www.vbulletin.com


Because we have been on proboards for so long and built it up nice, to start new again would be way too much hassle.
To be honest my forum is secondary to me, it is not my priority whatsoever.
It exists i am happy.

Installing a forum is a lot easier than you think. Then you can have control of whatever ads you want to put up to monetize your site.


Yes I know all about this, but alas i cant be bothered.

Why does it cost so much to host your sites? If you use GoDaddy's deluxe package to host multiple sites, it's only like $7 a month, plus $9 a year for each domain name.


Because I host my sites in the States, and we have very high traffic, i am also a stickler for loyalty, I have had many people threaten my hosts before, and i have even had sites taken from under me, so i stick with who i trust and know wont run if threatened.

I would hope that I don't sound crazy promoting outrageous stories. lol I try to only present things that make sense, that are based on common sense, while keeping an open mind and admitting that there is a lot out there that we don't know, including other dimensions, planes of existence, etc. Remember, not even science can afford to keep a closed mind.


Skepticism and science is about open mindedness.

Thanks. You seem a lot more civil and amicable than most skeptics I know.


Lol, nice for someone to say that.
Tobe honest it depends what mood you get me in.
I tendto be nicer to people who respond in an intelligent manner, so many believers throw insults and so on, so i tend to treat them as i am treated.

You treat me nice so i am nice back.

PS - Do any psychics ever threaten to sue you for exposing them


Yes, infact I have had death threats, i get daily abuse, i have had someone sit outside my house.
I get legal threats on a weekly basis.
And all in the name oflove and light.

The original owner of BadPsychics actually left the country in part dueto the threats and stress.

Where as me i am more laid back, i figure if someone is gonna kill me, they wont tell me first!

The amount oftimes i have had psychics tell me things like "If i ever met you face to face you would shit your pants" or "I dare you to say that to my face"
Yet when I do meet such people face to face and dare to say what i think, they turn into big pussy cats.

I guess being 6 foot 1" doesn't hurt!
JonDonnis
 
Posts: 27
Joined: 16 Aug 2009, 18:09

Re: Hello from the owner of BadPsychics

Postby Eteponge » 30 Oct 2009, 10:07

Glad to see you back posting here JonDonnis. :D

There's something I wanted to point out regarding the Bad Psychics section regarding Dr. Gary Schwartz as a "Bad Psychic". He's not a Psychic. He's a Researcher of Psychics. And the article posted there, claiming an expose of him on the Geraldo show, is full of outdated and inaccurate information regarding the Geraldo Incident (no one should take Geraldo and Fox News seriously and at face value on anything without examining all sides of the issue) :

http://badpsychics.co.uk/thefraudfiles/ ... toryid=555

Here's Dr. Gary Schwartz's side of the story, where he completely discredits Geraldo's wild claims on the program ...

http://www.drgaryschwartz.com/response.htm

As you read the brief summary statement below regarding a recent segment on Geraldo at Large, you may wish to ponder how much of what transpired was a conscious versus unconscious misrepresentation of the complete story. You may also wish to ponder the motives of the collection of individuals involved in promoting this selective and fallacious information.

Summary: Response to Geraldo

In what can be described as a character assassination segment on “Geraldo at Large” on Saturday, October 6th, explicit defamatory claims were made against Dr. Gary E. Schwartz concerning his ethics regarding fund raising for afterlife research. The one-sided segment presented interviews with three people – (1) Mr. Knopf, a father grieving the death of his son who had been a former client of Ms. Campbell (2) a medium currently co-starring in the television show Sensing Murder, and (3) Ms. Macy, an investigative reporter hired by Mr. Knopf. The segment was highly selective and biased in its reporting. A summary of the claims, with additional information not shared on the segment, is discussed below. Together they reveal a very different story.

Mr. Knopf claimed that Dr. Schwartz engaged in unethical fund raising following the death of his son, including making statements regarding his deceased son’s purported wishes from the other side. What the Geraldo segment did not mention is that (1) it was Mr. Knopf who initiated contact with Dr. Schwartz following Mr. Knopf’s successful private readings with Ms. Campbell, (2) Mr. Knopf claimed that he was a very wealthy man who wanted to honor his deceased son and help support afterlife research, (3) he invited Dr. Schwartz to his home to discuss possible research programs that he would fund, (4) Ms. Campbell provided specific information about his son’s wishes from the other side, (5) Mr. Knopf promised The University of Arizona an unrestricted gift of $100,000 but only followed through with $50,000 to The University of Arizona, (6) Mr. Knopf communicated to Dr. Schwartz that Mr. Knopf had recently been released from spending time in jail, (7) Mr. Knopf also communicated to Dr. Schwartz that he was currently being sued by partners in a medical school he purported to own, and (8) he was upset because Dr. Schwartz refused to participate in a proposed business venture with Mr. Knopf that would compromise Dr. Schwartz’s ethics.

Ms. Campbell claimed that she resigned from Dr. Schwartz’s laboratory in 2005, and that this speaks to her opinions regarding Dr. Schwartz’s ethical behavior. What the Geraldo segment did not mention is that (1) new guidelines and procedures for advancing the ethics and scientific understanding for mediums were being formulated at that time, initiated partly by some inappropriate behavior by Ms. Campbell and some other mediums, (2) all mediums would be required to go through a nine step evaluation procedure, including taking a government mandated human subjects ethics examine required of scientists and research staff, plus take a test based on a book describing previous scientific research with mediums, (3) Ms. Campbell was upset that she would have to undergo the required testing for the new guidelines and procedures, (4) she decided not to participate in the testing, and therefore (5) she was about to be let go by the laboratory, and chose to resign instead.

Ms. Macy claimed that she had interviewed other individuals who had been approached by Dr. Schwartz for research funding in an unethical manner. What the Geraldo segment did not mention is that (1) Ms. Macy had previously contributed to the spreading of a false rumor concerning fund raising related to Dr. Schwartz and the Forever Family Foundation, and that (2) after being confronted with the facts, she had written a formal letter of apology to Dr. Schwartz for her being part of spreading the false rumor.

One wonders why “Geraldo at Large” presented such a one sided story. Geraldo made a point on the show of reporting that Dr. Schwartz did not return their calls, with an implicit negative connotation. The truth is that there was no genuine attempt by the Geraldo show to contact Dr. Schwartz to have a fair representation of both sides of this story. What Geraldo failed to mention was that the call to Dr. Schwartz’s office was made only after closing hours of his office on Friday, October 5, for a show that was ready to be aired on Saturday, October 6. Also, a call had been made to Dr. Schwartz’s home late Friday night. As it happened, both Dr. Schwartz and his wife were out of town that weekend. They returned to Tucson on Sunday evening, October 7, after the show had aired.

As the title “Veritas Research Program” (http://veritas.arizona.edu ) indicates, Dr. Schwartz and his colleagues are concerned with truth. As Dr. Schwartz reports on his laboratory’s website (http://lach.web.arizona.edu/hos.htm),“Responsibility to the truth is the heart of science.” The Geraldo segment about Dr. Schwartz reveals a striking disregard for balanced truth in reporting. Legal action will be taken against each and every individual who has made defamatory comments against Dr. Schwartz, and the truth will be brought out in the court room 1.

1 An expanded and more academic discussion of these issues – including the philosophy and consequences of erroneous character assassination – will be available at a future date.

When Dr. Gary Schwartz was interviewed on The Paracast, the skeptical hosts also brought up the Geraldo incident, which he rebutted there as well.
"I think Eteponge's Blog is a pretty cool guy. eh debates Skeptics and doesnt afraid of anything."
User avatar
Eteponge
 
Posts: 300
Joined: 06 Jun 2009, 13:26

Re: Hello from the owner of BadPsychics

Postby ProfWag » 30 Oct 2009, 20:48

Eteponge wrote:Glad to see you back posting here JonDonnis. :D

There's something I wanted to point out regarding the Bad Psychics section regarding Dr. Gary Schwartz as a "Bad Psychic". He's not a Psychic. He's a Researcher of Psychics. And the article posted there, claiming an expose of him on the Geraldo show, is full of outdated and inaccurate information regarding the Geraldo Incident (no one should take Geraldo and Fox News seriously and at face value on anything without examining all sides of the issue) :

http://badpsychics.co.uk/thefraudfiles/ ... toryid=555

Here's Dr. Gary Schwartz's side of the story, where he completely discredits Geraldo's wild claims on the program ...

http://www.drgaryschwartz.com/response.htm

As you read the brief summary statement below regarding a recent segment on Geraldo at Large, you may wish to ponder how much of what transpired was a conscious versus unconscious misrepresentation of the complete story. You may also wish to ponder the motives of the collection of individuals involved in promoting this selective and fallacious information.

Summary: Response to Geraldo

In what can be described as a character assassination segment on “Geraldo at Large” on Saturday, October 6th, explicit defamatory claims were made against Dr. Gary E. Schwartz concerning his ethics regarding fund raising for afterlife research. The one-sided segment presented interviews with three people – (1) Mr. Knopf, a father grieving the death of his son who had been a former client of Ms. Campbell (2) a medium currently co-starring in the television show Sensing Murder, and (3) Ms. Macy, an investigative reporter hired by Mr. Knopf. The segment was highly selective and biased in its reporting. A summary of the claims, with additional information not shared on the segment, is discussed below. Together they reveal a very different story.

Mr. Knopf claimed that Dr. Schwartz engaged in unethical fund raising following the death of his son, including making statements regarding his deceased son’s purported wishes from the other side. What the Geraldo segment did not mention is that (1) it was Mr. Knopf who initiated contact with Dr. Schwartz following Mr. Knopf’s successful private readings with Ms. Campbell, (2) Mr. Knopf claimed that he was a very wealthy man who wanted to honor his deceased son and help support afterlife research, (3) he invited Dr. Schwartz to his home to discuss possible research programs that he would fund, (4) Ms. Campbell provided specific information about his son’s wishes from the other side, (5) Mr. Knopf promised The University of Arizona an unrestricted gift of $100,000 but only followed through with $50,000 to The University of Arizona, (6) Mr. Knopf communicated to Dr. Schwartz that Mr. Knopf had recently been released from spending time in jail, (7) Mr. Knopf also communicated to Dr. Schwartz that he was currently being sued by partners in a medical school he purported to own, and (8) he was upset because Dr. Schwartz refused to participate in a proposed business venture with Mr. Knopf that would compromise Dr. Schwartz’s ethics.

Ms. Campbell claimed that she resigned from Dr. Schwartz’s laboratory in 2005, and that this speaks to her opinions regarding Dr. Schwartz’s ethical behavior. What the Geraldo segment did not mention is that (1) new guidelines and procedures for advancing the ethics and scientific understanding for mediums were being formulated at that time, initiated partly by some inappropriate behavior by Ms. Campbell and some other mediums, (2) all mediums would be required to go through a nine step evaluation procedure, including taking a government mandated human subjects ethics examine required of scientists and research staff, plus take a test based on a book describing previous scientific research with mediums, (3) Ms. Campbell was upset that she would have to undergo the required testing for the new guidelines and procedures, (4) she decided not to participate in the testing, and therefore (5) she was about to be let go by the laboratory, and chose to resign instead.

Ms. Macy claimed that she had interviewed other individuals who had been approached by Dr. Schwartz for research funding in an unethical manner. What the Geraldo segment did not mention is that (1) Ms. Macy had previously contributed to the spreading of a false rumor concerning fund raising related to Dr. Schwartz and the Forever Family Foundation, and that (2) after being confronted with the facts, she had written a formal letter of apology to Dr. Schwartz for her being part of spreading the false rumor.

One wonders why “Geraldo at Large” presented such a one sided story. Geraldo made a point on the show of reporting that Dr. Schwartz did not return their calls, with an implicit negative connotation. The truth is that there was no genuine attempt by the Geraldo show to contact Dr. Schwartz to have a fair representation of both sides of this story. What Geraldo failed to mention was that the call to Dr. Schwartz’s office was made only after closing hours of his office on Friday, October 5, for a show that was ready to be aired on Saturday, October 6. Also, a call had been made to Dr. Schwartz’s home late Friday night. As it happened, both Dr. Schwartz and his wife were out of town that weekend. They returned to Tucson on Sunday evening, October 7, after the show had aired.

As the title “Veritas Research Program” (http://veritas.arizona.edu ) indicates, Dr. Schwartz and his colleagues are concerned with truth. As Dr. Schwartz reports on his laboratory’s website (http://lach.web.arizona.edu/hos.htm),“Responsibility to the truth is the heart of science.” The Geraldo segment about Dr. Schwartz reveals a striking disregard for balanced truth in reporting. Legal action will be taken against each and every individual who has made defamatory comments against Dr. Schwartz, and the truth will be brought out in the court room 1.

1 An expanded and more academic discussion of these issues – including the philosophy and consequences of erroneous character assassination – will be available at a future date.

When Dr. Gary Schwartz was interviewed on The Paracast, the skeptical hosts also brought up the Geraldo incident, which he rebutted there as well.

I haven't looked into these claims by Dr. Schwartz yet, but if he's searching for the truth as he claims, why was his experiments with the psychics less than scientific? I'll look through his rebuttals as the day progresses.
User avatar
ProfWag
 
Posts: 3843
Joined: 05 Aug 2009, 03:54

Re: Hello from the owner of BadPsychics

Postby Eteponge » 30 Oct 2009, 21:55

ProfWag wrote:but if he's searching for the truth as he claims, why was his experiments with the psychics less than scientific?

Dr. Gary Schwartz's EARLY Experiments did have poorer controls in place. There are various skeptical articles pointing this out. However, in the following years, Dr. Gary Schwartz upped the controls, year by year, in response to skeptical criticism, incorporating those very suggestions into the experiments. Skeptics were still not convinced when he got good results with double-blind experiments, so he upped the controls even further, to what he calls "triple blind" experiments (because the controls are even tighter than standard double-blind), and skeptics are still not convinced.

Most skeptics will point to skeptical articles criticizing his EARLY experiments, that had poorer controls, acting as though he never tightened them, when he actually did, in response to those very crticisms.

Here's a series of responses by Dr. Gary Schwartz to Randi's Claims, circa 2001, where he clearly states that he later incorporated suggestions from Randi's criticisms of his earlier experiments into his later experiments ...

http://survivalscience.50megs.com/torandi.htm

And here's Dr. Gary Schwartz's indepth response to Ray Hyman's skeptical article about his research ...

http://www.enformy.com/Gary-reHymanReview.htm
"I think Eteponge's Blog is a pretty cool guy. eh debates Skeptics and doesnt afraid of anything."
User avatar
Eteponge
 
Posts: 300
Joined: 06 Jun 2009, 13:26

Re: Hello from the owner of BadPsychics

Postby ProfWag » 30 Oct 2009, 22:10

Thanks for that info Etepenge! And here are the results of an investigation by the Department of Health and Human Services, from 2007 (2 years ago), concerning Dr. Schwartz and his experiments: http://www.hhs.gov/ohrp/detrm_letrs/YR07/dec07d.pdf
User avatar
ProfWag
 
Posts: 3843
Joined: 05 Aug 2009, 03:54

Re: Hello from the owner of BadPsychics

Postby NinjaPuppy » 30 Oct 2009, 22:37

ProfWag wrote:Thanks for that info Etepenge! And here are the results of an investigation by the Department of Health and Human Services, from 2007 (2 years ago), concerning Dr. Schwartz and his experiments: http://www.hhs.gov/ohrp/detrm_letrs/YR07/dec07d.pdf

ProfWag - Can I get a explanation of that? I don't seem to be able to understand what it means.
User avatar
NinjaPuppy
 
Posts: 4002
Joined: 28 Jul 2009, 20:44

Re: Hello from the owner of BadPsychics

Postby ProfWag » 30 Oct 2009, 23:19

NinjaPuppy wrote:
ProfWag wrote:Thanks for that info Etepenge! And here are the results of an investigation by the Department of Health and Human Services, from 2007 (2 years ago), concerning Dr. Schwartz and his experiments: http://www.hhs.gov/ohrp/detrm_letrs/YR07/dec07d.pdf

ProfWag - Can I get a explanation of that? I don't seem to be able to understand what it means.

In short, Dr. Schwartz was identified for unethical treatment of his subjects in experiments concerning mediums. He was found liable and corrective action was required. There are other claims about him, but I have chosen not to include them at this time.
Wag
User avatar
ProfWag
 
Posts: 3843
Joined: 05 Aug 2009, 03:54

Re: Hello from the owner of BadPsychics

Postby Jasmine » 01 Nov 2009, 21:50

'No, our aim is to find real psychics and real mediums.'

You may be waiting quite some time. :lol:
Jasmine
 
Posts: 1
Joined: 30 Oct 2009, 06:06

PreviousNext

Return to Introduce Yourself

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest

cron