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Re: Aussie genius whips NASA reps in Moon Hoax Debate!

Postby Edx » 07 Dec 2010, 10:13

So its been several days now and still no response from Winston. What a surprise. :roll:

Anyone want to take bets that if he does reply he'll ignore everything I said and post another video of cut and paste from another website?
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Interview with Jarrah White - Master of Moon Hoax Debate

Postby Scepcop » 01 Jun 2011, 01:40

Hi all,
Check out this interview with Jarrah White, the world's leading expert on the Moon Hoax Theory. It's 2 hours long but you can see how Jarrah has mastered the debate. He knows thousands of arguments both for and against the Moon Hoax Theory and seems to have memorized them all to the point where he can easily pull out the right cards that refute any opposing arguments. The guy is brilliant and when you listen to him, you will not imagine anyone who knows more about this debate than him. He's studied it more than anyone else has, considering that he has now made over 300 high quality videos about the Moon Hoax Theory since 2006, which is more than anyone ever has.

Here is his recent interview.

YouTube version:

Part 1 of 10



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http://binnallofamerica.com/boaa051611.html

Jarrah also has a new website he is working on which he announced in the interview. It is not ready yet, but you can bookmark it for now and check back later. The URL is:

http://www.moonfaker.com

He is also a contributing editor on http://www.moonmovie.com
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Re: Interview with Jarrah White - Master of Moon Hoax Debate

Postby ProfWag » 01 Jun 2011, 04:38

Scepcop wrote:Hi all,
Check out this interview with Jarrah White, the world's leading expert on the Moon Hoax Theory. It's 2 hours long but you can see how Jarrah has mastered the debate. He knows thousands of arguments both for and against the Moon Hoax Theory and seems to have memorized them all to the point where he can easily pull out the right cards that refute any opposing arguments. The guy is brilliant and when you listen to him, you will not imagine anyone who knows more about this debate than him. He's studied it more than anyone else has, considering that he has now made over 300 high quality videos about the Moon Hoax Theory since 2006, which is more than anyone ever has.

Here is his recent interview.

YouTube version:

Part 1 of 10



Download here:

http://binnallofamerica.com/boaa051611.html

Jarrah also has a new website he is working on which he announced in the interview. It is not ready yet, but you can bookmark it for now and check back later. The URl is:

http://www.moonfaker.com

He is also a contributing editor on http://www.moonmovie.com

What are Jarrah's credentials? Why should I believe him over, well, virtually every scientist alive? Before I watch another 2-hour long video by this person, I would like to know what his credentials are. Anyone with a camera and knows how to speak can make a video. Please, tell us Scepcop.
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Re: Interview with Jarrah White - Master of Moon Hoax Debate

Postby Arouet » 01 Jun 2011, 05:28

ProfWag wrote:What are Jarrah's credentials? Why should I believe him over, well, virtually every scientist alive? Before I watch another 2-hour long video by this person, I would like to know what his credentials are. Anyone with a camera and knows how to speak can make a video. Please, tell us Scepcop.


What, can't you read? He's "the world's leading expert on the Moon Hoax Theory". And a genius!

What more do you want?
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Re: Jarrah White whips NASA reps in Moon Hoax Debate!

Postby Scepcop » 01 Jun 2011, 20:34

Arouet is right. Jarrah's credentials is that he is the most knowledgeable person in the world in the Moon Hoax Debate, and has produced more videos on it than anyone ever has, thus he is the record holder of that. lol

What credentials could top that? lol

Jarrah can kick anyone's ass in this subject. Even Phil Plait ran away from Jarrah like a scared animal, cause deep down, Phil Plait knows that his conformist mindset cannot possibly compete with a freethinking knowledgeable mindset like that of Jarrah White. That's why Plait ran away in fear, cause deep down, he knows the truth is NOT on his side. When the truth is on your side, you have no fear of an investigation and you have no fear of critical inquiry.

Think about it. If the truth was on Phil Plait's side, he would have no problem sitting down with Jarrah and answering his questions calmingly and rationally.

I have no problem sitting down and answering all questions put to me, for example. Why not?
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Re: Jarrah White whips NASA reps in Moon Hoax Debate!

Postby ProfWag » 01 Jun 2011, 20:43

Scepcop wrote:Arouet is right. Jarrah's credentials is that he is the most knowledgeable person in the world in the Moon Hoax Debate, and has produced more videos on it than anyone ever has, thus he is the record holder of that. lol

What credentials could top that? lol

Jarrah can kick anyone's ass in this subject. Even Phil Plait ran away from Jarrah like a scared animal, cause deep down, Phil Plait knows that his conformist mindset cannot possibly compete with a freethinking knowledgeable mindset like that of Jarrah White. That's why Plait ran away in fear, cause deep down, he knows the truth is NOT on his side. When the truth is on your side, you have no fear of an investigation and you have no fear of critical inquiry.

Think about it. If the truth was on Phil Plait's side, he would have no problem sitting down with Jarrah and answering his questions calmingly and rationally.

I have no problem sitting down and answering all questions put to me, for example. Why not?

How about a better question...Why?
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Re: Jarrah White whips NASA reps in Moon Hoax Debate!

Postby Arouet » 06 Jun 2011, 00:17

Scepcop wrote:
I have no problem sitting down and answering all questions put to me, for example.


Scepcop, you either ignore or don't directly answer most of the substantive questions directed at you, to the point where there have been threads calling you out for this.
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Re: Jarrah White whips NASA reps in Moon Hoax Debate!

Postby ProfWag » 06 Jun 2011, 06:50

Arouet wrote:
Scepcop wrote:
I have no problem sitting down and answering all questions put to me, for example.


Scepcop, you either ignore or don't directly answer most of the substantive questions directed at you, to the point where there have been threads calling you out for this.

I was going to make a comment similar to yours Arouet, but I figured "why bother, he wouldn't sit down and answer any questions anyway."
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Re: Jarrah White whips NASA reps in Moon Hoax Debate!

Postby Edx » 11 Jun 2011, 06:33

Scepcop wrote:Arouet is right. Jarrah's credentials is that he is the most knowledgeable person in the world in the Moon Hoax Debate, and has produced more videos on it than anyone ever has, thus he is the record holder of that. lol

What credentials could top that? lol


:shock: :shock: :shock:

Wow I would say Winston HAS to be joking, but I have a feeling he isn't. :lol: :lol: :lol:

I have no problem sitting down and answering all questions put to me, for example. Why not?


You tell us, you always ignore everyones questions 99% of the time.
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Re: Jarrah White whips NASA reps in Moon Hoax Debate!

Postby Craig Browning » 11 Jun 2011, 23:18

I'm honestly shocked this forum still exists given how the majority of the active members blast the hell out of the site's founder and owner. I guess Winston could be viewed as a good sport that's willing to tolerate (ignore?) such situations. At the same time, I simply cannot understand why he won't at least attempt to stand-up for himself
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Re: Jarrah White whips NASA reps in Moon Hoax Debate!

Postby really? » 12 Jun 2011, 19:34

I agree he's a good sport. I wonder too why he won't stand-up for himself.
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Re: Jarrah White whips NASA reps in Moon Hoax Debate!

Postby Arouet » 12 Jun 2011, 21:16

Winston is a good sport, and I've given him kudos on JREF for that very thing. It is quite frustrating though his approach of launching a discussion and then abandoning it.
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Re: Jarrah White whips NASA reps in Moon Hoax Debate!

Postby Scepcop » 17 Jun 2011, 21:05

Btw, this interview with Jarrah White on Whispers Radio is better cause he presents more evidence in it rather than just discussing his personal feelings like in the new interview. If you haven't listened to it yet, here is the link:

http://www.whispersradio.com/?p=176

Also, in 2001, Fox aired a TV special called "Did we land on the moon?" which makes a lot of compelling arguments and evidence that the moon landing might have been a hoax. It is exciting and only 45 minutes long. You can see it here:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 561633304#

So far, none of the Apollo defenders have truly refuted these compelling arguments. Instead, they either confuse you with pseudo techno babble, or they use insults and ad hominem attacks to call anyone who believes that the moon landings were faked, must be a nut. But Occam's Razor, which says that the simplest explanation is usually the correct one, says that these overly complicated explanations to try to discredit the hoax evidence, are probably not true, whereas the simple easy-to-understand evidence pointing to a hoax are more likely to be true. Watch the documentary and see for yourself. It contains a lot of compelling points from different experts and researchers.

NASA, on the other hand, refuses to address these arguments, but instead runs away and ignores them. Logic says that if truth were on NASA's side, then they would have nothing to hide and would be glad to answer all questions fully and logically. But they don't. They'd rather ignore any skeptics or call them nutcases. But this is no surprise, for in general, the US government does NOT engage in debates with freethinkers, critical thinkers, and truth seekers who are able to think for themselves and apply real critical thinking, probably because it does not want to give credence to them, and also because it knows that it cannot win in debates with freethinkers, if the truth is not on their side.
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Re: Jarrah White whips NASA reps in Moon Hoax Debate!

Postby Scepcop » 17 Jun 2011, 21:12

I do not run from questions or issues. I answer them, but I do not engage in endless circles with no point except ad hominem attacks.
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Re: Jarrah White whips NASA reps in Moon Hoax Debate!

Postby Eternally Learning » 17 Jun 2011, 22:55

Scepcop wrote:I do not run from questions or issues. I answer them, but I do not engage in endless circles with no point except ad hominem attacks.


I barely even peruse here anymore, and the first time I check outside of a thread which I'll share in a moment, I find this Gem posted no more than a few hours ago... Scepcop, you might have made a religious man outta me.

Here's a question you must have forgotten about. I believe we're on week 12 of not getting any response to a question asked in ernest, not even a blank dismissal.

Should SCEPCoP Change its Name? viewtopic.php?f=20&t=1676&start=0

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Scepcop wrote:Eternally Learning,
I don't really understand your questions. Have you read through the treatise and the fallacies section? Which parts don't you agree with? Your statements are vague. I'm not sure what your point is.

If you propose changing the SCEPCOP acronym, then what name would you suggest? The way it is is very creative and brilliant. And very well liked.


Sorry, didn't think I was being vague. I'll try to clarify. As I understand it, you made this site because you consider yourself to be a skeptic in the true sense of the word, and that those who go about labeling themselves as skeptics, often exhibit behavior contradictory to basic skepticism. As such, many of their attacks on paranormalism (is that a valid term?) tend to be lazy, unskeptical, unsupported by the facts, and repeated ad nauseum. You've labeled such persons "Pseudoskeptics" and this website is meant to be a kind of beacon to paranormalists (again, valid term?) who consider themselves to be true skeptics.

So, while much of the site is spent discussing the paranormal items of the day, you also devote a healthy portion to debunking the debunkers, as it were, and trying to break down specifically, just what exactly it is that makes these people wrong, and how their behavior shows certain common threads which are common and directly opposed to true skepticism.

So, assuming I didn't get any of that wrong, here’s where I object: A core part of your mission is, as stated, to evaluate pseudoskeptical criticism. When the definition of "Evaluate" is "To draw conclusions from examining; to assess," and your definition of "Pseudoskeptical" seems to be "a false skeptic," then I’m left with 2 possibilities for the intent of that part of your name:

1. You mean only to evaluate criticism of the paranormal which is pseudoskeptical in nature.
2. You consider all criticism of the paranormal to be pseudoskeptical in nature.

If 1 is the case, then my original comments stand. How can you selectively evaluate only pseudoskepticism without pre-judging the criticism you choose to evaluate? By necessity, you’d have to ignore all the support for the arguments being used to criticize the paranormal just to select what you want to evaluate. I think it may also be entirely possible, that you're using the word "Evaluate" when you're thinking about "Examine."

If 2 is the case (which I don’t think it is), then I don’t see how you can honestly claim to be a true skeptic. If you don’t understand why I’d feel that way, then I doubt much of anything I say will have much impact on you.

As for name changes, my OP contained some suggestions. Granted, they’re not very sexy, but I couldn’t think of anything better to change the “P” to and still reflect the essence of your mission. Now that I’ve thought about it more, I much prefer changing the “E” to “Examine.” Seems to more accurately reflect what you’re trying to do here.


I'll go out on a limb and say that you'd call the above an ad hominem attack so I'll preempt your dodge and ask you to support that assertion. All I ask, and I think others would as well, is that you simply don't abandon threads if you actually have a legitimate reason for doing so. If you think you're justified in calling my question an Ad Hominem attack destined for an endless cirular argument, then tell me so and be prepared to back it up.

Now, I'm going to go out on another limb and predict that you'll either ignore this post in this thread and move onto respond to other people, or that this will be the last of you we see in this thread.
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