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Re: The TV fakery of 9/11

Postby Nostradamus » 18 Oct 2009, 04:36

You continue to use language such as "shitty", which I think talks about your substance and the substance of your video.
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Re: The TV fakery of 9/11

Postby Nostradamus » 18 Oct 2009, 04:39

I have done quite a bit of image processing and understand the underlying mathematics. So when I see the nose out segment doing a so-called match up using a blurred image I also know that the image is missing ____.

If you want to defend the video and its improper analysis using video editing please fill in the blank.
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Re: The TV fakery of 9/11

Postby accidentsinspace » 18 Oct 2009, 05:49

Nostradamus wrote:I have done quite a bit of image processing and understand the underlying mathematics. So when I see the nose out segment doing a so-called match up using a blurred image I also know that the image is missing ____.

If you want to defend the video and its improper analysis using video editing please fill in the blank.


The ball is in your court. I have already presented the evidence which speaks for itself and has convinced me. I was a no planer before September Clues was made btw but it certainly validated the position I take.

I want YOU to dispute it and I look forward to perusing your OWN presentation. :D
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Re: The TV fakery of 9/11

Postby Scepcop » 18 Oct 2009, 16:01

ProfWag,
So how do you explain the plane's nose coming out the other side?

How many witnesses were near WTC that day and said they saw no plane?

The September Clues film is confusing. Eventually it gets into too many lines and angles and loses me there as to what the point is or where the discrepancy is.
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Re: The TV fakery of 9/11

Postby ProfWag » 18 Oct 2009, 21:02

Scepcop wrote:ProfWag,
So how do you explain the plane's nose coming out the other side?

How many witnesses were near WTC that day and said they saw no plane?

The September Clues film is confusing. Eventually it gets into too many lines and angles and loses me there as to what the point is or where the discrepancy is.

What nose came out the other side? It's called "debris." It does not match up with how a missle would look coming out. Also, why don't you look at that evidence from another direction. Clearly shows debris. That is a very unfactual and misleading film.
How many witnesses say they didn't see a plane is unknown to me. I'm sure there are people who weren't looking up in the sky. There were many that did see it however. How many saw a missle? Oh, yea, none.
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Re: The TV fakery of 9/11

Postby ProfWag » 18 Oct 2009, 21:08

accidentsinspace wrote:
Nostradamus wrote:I have done quite a bit of image processing and understand the underlying mathematics. So when I see the nose out segment doing a so-called match up using a blurred image I also know that the image is missing ____.

If you want to defend the video and its improper analysis using video editing please fill in the blank.


The ball is in your court. I have already presented the evidence which speaks for itself and has convinced me. I was a no planer before September Clues was made btw but it certainly validated the position I take.

I want YOU to dispute it and I look forward to perusing your OWN presentation. :D

The ball is in our court? I think you hit the ball way out of bounds and can't be retrieved. The "evedince" has been convincingly disputed, many times over. There were many, many witnesses to airplanes, There are many, many videos. Tthere was wreckage found, There were body parts from the passengers found, and I can go on and on. The no-plane theory is based on blind belief. It's a very, very irrational theory.
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Re: The TV fakery of 9/11

Postby accidentsinspace » 19 Oct 2009, 21:09

ProfWag wrote:The ball is in our court? I think you hit the ball way out of bounds and can't be retrieved. The "evedince" has been convincingly disputed, many times over. There were many, many witnesses to airplanes, There are many, many videos. Tthere was wreckage found, There were body parts from the passengers found, and I can go on and on. The no-plane theory is based on blind belief. It's a very, very irrational theory.


Yeah, whatever. In your dreams. :lol:
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Re: The TV fakery of 9/11

Postby brett » 19 Oct 2009, 21:52

oh for heavens sakes man - we all saw the planes hit the towers - ( we did not see the one hit the pentagon although something did - nor the mysterious flight that was supposed to have crashed else where ) - as to WHO was on those planes - or controlling them is open to dispute - but any insistence that planes did not hit the towers is ludacris -( and yes i have read the wacko scenario that they where cruise missiles projecting holographic images of planes + a few other nut job stories ) - simple fact born out by witnesses such as fire fighters ( whom i would tend to believe over official .unofficial, conspiracy, cover up , black op , false flag, Micky mouse , the wizard of oz , and the 3 little pigs , stories )

got to go with prof wag on this one

if you can PROVE there where no planes - then do so - either put up or SHUT UP !! - its hard enough discussing this issue without going in to the realms of fantasy - there is enough fiction about what REALLY happened that day already
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Re: The TV fakery of 9/11

Postby accidentsinspace » 19 Oct 2009, 22:01

brett wrote:oh for heavens sakes man - we all saw the planes hit the towers - ( we did not see the one hit the pentagon although something did - nor the mysterious flight that was supposed to have crashed else where ) - as to WHO was on those planes - or controlling them is open to dispute - but any insistence that planes did not hit the towers is ludacris -( and yes i have read the wacko scenario that they where cruise missiles projecting holographic images of planes + a few other nut job stories ) - simple fact born out by witnesses such as fire fighters ( whom i would tend to believe over official .unofficial, conspiracy, cover up , black op , false flag, Micky mouse , the wizard of oz , and the 3 little pigs , stories )

got to go with prof wag on this one

if you can PROVE there where no planes - then do so - either put up or SHUT UP !! - its hard enough discussing this issue without going in to the realms of fantasy - there is enough fiction about what REALLY happened that day already


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Re: The TV fakery of 9/11

Postby Nostradamus » 19 Oct 2009, 22:02

AccidentsInSpace is clearly either a troll or a poorly educated teenager. I go with the teenager guess.

The foul language, poor writing skills, and inability to present evidence are all indicative of his age.

I still challenge accident to a discussion on image processing issues. I see that he has failed to rise to the challenge.
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Re: The TV fakery of 9/11

Postby accidentsinspace » 19 Oct 2009, 22:07

Nostradamus wrote:AccidentsInSpace is clearly either a troll or a poorly educated teenager. I go with the teenager guess.

The foul language, poor writing skills, and inability to present evidence are all indicative of his age.

I still challenge accident to a discussion on image processing issues. I see that he has failed to rise to the challenge.


Wrong on all counts, Mr Delusional. I am waiting for you to present your image processing skills. TROLL!
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Re: The TV fakery of 9/11

Postby Nostradamus » 19 Oct 2009, 22:10

Find out. Post any of your claims and you'll find out what a dolt of a claim it is.
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Re: The TV fakery of 9/11

Postby NinjaPuppy » 19 Oct 2009, 22:11

accidentsinspace wrote:Wrong on all counts, Mr Delusional. I am waiting for you to present your image processing skills. TROLL!

Accidentsinspace - Did you not see my warning to you about name calling?
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Re: The TV fakery of 9/11

Postby Nostradamus » 19 Oct 2009, 22:13

Until accidents posts anything to support his no-planer delusion I will put him on ignore.
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Re: The TV fakery of 9/11

Postby brett » 19 Oct 2009, 22:15

and people who cant argue a point resort to personal insults - well carry on calling me names - you are just showing yourself up for what you are and do you SERIOUSLY think you are upsetting me ?? - i have been insulted by EXPERTS :roll:

nice summation there nostradamus BTW ;)
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