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Why did Bush say he had seen the first 'plane' crash?

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Why did Bush say he had seen the first 'plane' crash?

Postby accidentsinspace » 19 Oct 2009, 02:10

He admits to seeing it on the tv on the morning of 9/11 How? Why?? Maybe the pseodoscientists could help with this one?

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Re: Why did Bush say he had seen the first 'plane' crash?

Postby ciscop » 19 Oct 2009, 02:21

ooh my gosh... is this is what believers call proof??
do you understand that
BUSH IS A POLITICIAN CAMPAINGNING FOR WAR 3 MONTHS AFTER THE ATTACK???
POLITICIAN being the clue

wow..

incredible

i understand the wishfull thinking when talking about psi.. but why would you wanna believe usa has anything to do with 911?
yes, sure they are evil (the american government, not the people) but there still no proof it was an inside job
no proof at all
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Re: Why did Bush say he had seen the first 'plane' crash?

Postby accidentsinspace » 02 Nov 2009, 04:46

ciscop wrote:ooh my gosh... is this is what believers call proof??
do you understand that
BUSH IS A POLITICIAN CAMPAINGNING FOR WAR 3 MONTHS AFTER THE ATTACK???
POLITICIAN being the clue

wow..

incredible

i understand the wishfull thinking when talking about psi.. but why would you wanna believe usa has anything to do with 911?
yes, sure they are evil (the american government, not the people) but there still no proof it was an inside job
no proof at all


He lied about seeing a 'plane'. Why? How did this help his cause? Come on, Nostra, get scrubbing a bit more.
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Re: Why did Bush say he had seen the first 'plane' crash?

Postby NinjaPuppy » 02 Nov 2009, 05:04

OK, on this one here my dear.... you are splitting hairs and playing a good game of semantics. Allow me to walk you through this one.

1. George Bush was, and as far as I know, still is... a major bung hole.
2. His comment could be (notice the use of 'could' here) refering to the damage from the 'so called' (I put that in there just for you) first plane.

I also watched repeat TV footage of a smoking gaping hole and at first thought, "OH CRAP! There goes another one!". It's not the first time that a plane has hit the taller buildings in NYC, so I pretty much thought exactly what he did... oooooh, really crappy pilot. Again.

It wasn't until the second 'mysterious' occurence (or plane as some people around here tend to think) hit the second tower that I knew this wasn't just a bad day at the airport.

Not to mention we could have a #3-

3. The government may have gotten their hands on a tourist video or recovered something from somewhere. With them, ya never know. You know how they hate to hear that Big Brother stuff and all.
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Re: Why did Bush say he had seen the first 'plane' crash?

Postby accidentsinspace » 02 Nov 2009, 05:23

No. This is what happened. He was in a classroom in Florida. There was only two pieces of footage of the first plane. One was shown on television on the 12th, the other six months after. This is what Bush said:

'Well, Jordan (ph), you're not going to believe what state I was in when I heard about the terrorist attack. I was in Florida. And my chief of staff, Andy Card -- actually I was in a classroom talking about a reading program that works. And I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower -- the TV was obviously on, and I use to fly myself, and I said, "There's one terrible pilot." And I said, "It must have been a horrible accident."'
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Re: Why did Bush say he had seen the first 'plane' crash?

Postby NinjaPuppy » 02 Nov 2009, 05:40

Since when do you believe anything that comes out of a politicians mouth???

Knowing Bush, he was probably watching cartoons but you'll never get him to admit that. If the government knew anything about an attack that day, the President would NOT have been on the ground, in a school. He would have been neatly tucked away in some safe spot.
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Re: Why did Bush say he had seen the first 'plane' crash?

Postby accidentsinspace » 02 Nov 2009, 06:04

NinjaPuppy wrote:Since when do you believe anything that comes out of a politicians mouth???

Knowing Bush, he was probably watching cartoons but you'll never get him to admit that. If the government knew anything about an attack that day, the President would NOT have been on the ground, in a school. He would have been neatly tucked away in some safe spot.


Why should he not have been on the ground? I would suggest that the opposite is true. The last place he should have been was in high alert airspace when there were 'terrorists' flying about'. This was why ALL airspace was cleared and out of bounds that day. Except of course for the President. Reflect on this.
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Re: Why did Bush say he had seen the first 'plane' crash?

Postby NinjaPuppy » 02 Nov 2009, 06:45

accidentsinspace wrote:
NinjaPuppy wrote:Since when do you believe anything that comes out of a politicians mouth???

Knowing Bush, he was probably watching cartoons but you'll never get him to admit that. If the government knew anything about an attack that day, the President would NOT have been on the ground, in a school. He would have been neatly tucked away in some safe spot.


Why should he not have been on the ground? I would suggest that the opposite is true. the last place he should have been was in high alert airspace when there were 'terrorists flying about'. This was why ALL airspace was cleared and out of bounds that day. Except of course forthe President. Reflect on this.


He would have been near a very secure bunker. Not necessarily on a plane, but certainly not on the ground. More like 'in the ground'. At the very least near a military installation for quick scoopin' and movin'.

It took a long time to clear that airspace. It's not like they just said, ok everybody land now. It was monitored for 'hostile' aircraft. In other words, planes not responding.
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Re: Why did Bush say he had seen the first 'plane' crash?

Postby accidentsinspace » 02 Nov 2009, 06:49

Yeah, airspace takes a while to clear but they started clearing airspace immediately after the second attack. Bush was still on the ground, in a classroom in Florida. Why would he leave on a plane AFTER the airspace clearance had got underway?
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Re: Why did Bush say he had seen the first 'plane' crash?

Postby NinjaPuppy » 02 Nov 2009, 07:02

accidentsinspace wrote:Yeah, airspace takes a while to clear but they started clearing airspace immediately after the second attack. Bush was still on the ground, in a classroom in Florida. Why would he leave on a plane AFTER the airspace clearance had got underway?

I don't think that clearing airspace after the second attack was a problem. I'm sure that people waiting at the airports were running out of there like their lives depended on it... Pardon the pun.

Bush supposedly didn't arrive back in Washington until around 6pm that night. One other thing. Air Force One is not a specific plane. It's any plane that the President is occupying.

Here are two very interesting reads:
http://www.historycommons.org/timeline. ... 1_timeline
http://www.historycommons.org/timeline. ... 1_timeline
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Re: Why did Bush say he had seen the first 'plane' crash?

Postby accidentsinspace » 02 Nov 2009, 16:02

NinjaPuppy wrote:
accidentsinspace wrote:Yeah, airspace takes a while to clear but they started clearing airspace immediately after the second attack. Bush was still on the ground, in a classroom in Florida. Why would he leave on a plane AFTER the airspace clearance had got underway?

I don't think that clearing airspace after the second attack was a problem. I'm sure that people waiting at the airports were running out of there like their lives depended on it... Pardon the pun.

Bush supposedly didn't arrive back in Washington until around 6pm that night. One other thing. Air Force One is not a specific plane. It's any plane that the President is occupying.

Here are two very interesting reads:
http://www.historycommons.org/timeline. ... 1_timeline
http://www.historycommons.org/timeline. ... 1_timeline


Firstly, I nver said 'clearing airspace would be a problem'. Secondly, I am not sure how this strange looking website counters anything I say? It pretends to do a timeline on thousands of other 'event's but I found none.
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Re: Why did Bush say he had seen the first 'plane' crash?

Postby NinjaPuppy » 02 Nov 2009, 20:30

accidentsinspace wrote:Firstly, I nver said 'clearing airspace would be a problem'. Secondly, I am not sure how this strange looking website counters anything I say? It pretends to do a timeline on thousands of other 'event's but I found none.

You obviously had questions about the President flying around:
    The last place he should have been was in high alert airspace when there were 'terrorists' flying about'. This was why ALL airspace was cleared and out of bounds that day. Except of course for the President. Reflect on this.

Second, did you bother to look at the information in those links I posted? I said it was 'interesting'. I read both of those timelines due to hearing certain things (and having a strong opinion of Cheney) that sure did make me think that my opinion is not far off. If you had taken the time to read them, you would have found your answer to this question:
    Why would he leave on a plane AFTER the airspace clearance had got underway?

I'll save you the time. Basically it was said that the President is supposed to be in DC during an emergency situation. People were asking why he wasn't. However, IMO it seemed that Cheney was having a bit of a power rush being in charge and he didn't seem to want him to return. I think that Dickey was looking for his 15 minutes of fame and this was his big opportunity. He wasn't about to give it up too easily.

It also mentioned that certain suspected terrorists were at the President's hotel and were shushed off by his Secret Service people. Hmmmmm. I did not know that tidbit of information. Doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things but it did make me think.

As for the times of specific events not matching, no biggie. That's SOP.
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Re: Why did Bush say he had seen the first 'plane' crash?

Postby accidentsinspace » 03 Nov 2009, 01:37

Sorry, but I find it incredulous that they would board a plane when all pther planes were being brought down andthe so called 'terror' which was essentially in the sky. I don't care what the protocol is. I am telling you that getting on a plane, on 9/11 when the 'terrorists' were using planes as weapons was a bad idea. They obviously knew there was no real danger.

Ninja, what is your stance on 9/11. it sounds to me that you are dismissing it was an inside job.
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Re: Why did Bush say he had seen the first 'plane' crash?

Postby NinjaPuppy » 03 Nov 2009, 03:06

accidentsinspace wrote:Sorry, but I find it incredulous that they would board a plane when all pther planes were being brought down andthe so called 'terror' which was essentially in the sky. I don't care what the protocol is. I am telling you that getting on a plane, on 9/11 when the 'terrorists' were using planes as weapons was a bad idea. They obviously knew there was no real danger.

Obviously the Secret Service agreed that being in the air was not a good idea as they kept Bush grounded until the airspace had been somewhat cleared. Of course there were a few Air Force jets doing an escort when he finally started his return.

accidentsinspace wrote:Ninja, what is your stance on 9/11. it sounds to me that you are dismissing it was an inside job.

Absolutely not dismissing it as a possibility. There's just not enough information to verify my thoughts to take them to a theory.
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Re: Why did Bush say he had seen the first 'plane' crash?

Postby Nostradamus » 03 Nov 2009, 03:07

I am telling you that getting on a plane, on 9/11 when the 'terrorists' were using planes as weapons was a bad idea. They obviously knew there was no real danger.


Was there real danger to a plane on that day? No. I agree that it was safe for the president to get into his plane that day. There was no real danger to his plane. The terrorists were flying unarmed civilian jets aimed at stationary targets.

The terrorists could locate the fixed targets, not a moving target. The terrorists were in unarmed civilian planes.

Besides, :lol: :lol: :lol: , you claim there were no :lol: :lol: :lol: planes. So why are you now claiming there was danger in skies. Hilarious.
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