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Re: WTC 7 Video

Postby Scepcop » 18 Oct 2009, 16:27

NinjaPuppy wrote:My opinion is that it's possible that the commotion and shock waves from two 110 story buildings collapsing caused some major structural damage to all of the surrounding buildings. Combine that with the possibility of crappy architecture, crappy building materials and fires and it is certainly possible.


Building 7 was not made of crappy materials. It was made of the highest quality and was fireproofed. It contained important government and CIA offices. No way would such offices be in crappy buildings. The Madrid Tower in 2005 was made of far inferior materials, yet it burned for 20+ hours and did not collapse.
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Re: WTC 7 Video

Postby Scepcop » 18 Oct 2009, 16:47

ProfWag and Nostradamus,
Can you explain why Building 7 fell with no resistance below it? How can so much steel and concrete become like air? Where is the resistance of all that material?
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Re: WTC 7 Video

Postby ProfWag » 18 Oct 2009, 21:27

Scepcop wrote:ProfWag and Nostradamus,
Can you explain why Building 7 fell with no resistance below it? How can so much steel and concrete become like air? Where is the resistance of all that material?

Many people have already explained it. You've either read them and dismissed them or won't read something that contradicts your theoy. Here's one, but again, I'm sure you won't read or attempt to understand its logic.
http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm
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Re: WTC 7 Video

Postby NinjaPuppy » 18 Oct 2009, 21:47

SCEPCOP - Thanks for that video. I will still argue the term 'pull it' especially as to the phone call to some controlled demolition company. She states that 'pull it' means when they actually pull it down. I take that to mean as 'pull it down manually with heavy equipment'. It's ashame that the caller didn't bother to ask a few more questions while he was at it. Not to mention that he might have but none of us have any way of verifying this. Those YouTube videos don't pack enough punch for me to form an opinion as they are generally presented in the opinion of the maker. For all we know, that person could have made a hundred calls and only used the one clip with the answer that he wanted to hear.

This is one of my many reasons for wanting further investigation into so many things that happened that day. However, in light of the fact that not one of us can change the facts that thousands of people died that day, I'd really rather see more energy go into preventing something like this from ever happening again. I will always feel that someone was 'sleeping on the switch'. Spending so much time in debating a landlord's words during the most horrific time in US history is pale by comparison to asking if our government knew anything of this prior to it happening, how much they knew, and why they couldn't prevent it. Next, if they knew nothing or very little about it, I ask, "why" again? I still can't believe that 19 terrorists with a death wish in their zeal for the chance of 72 virgins, could pull this off without some pretty extensive help. That is, and may always be, the reason that makes me wonder about so many of the unanswered questions about 9/11.

Meanwhile, we have probably as many opinions about 9/11 as we do people. Each with a 'little spin' on the events of that horrible day. An official report has been filed and some will take it as gospel and some will argue every sentence in that report.
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Re: WTC 7 Video

Postby Nostradamus » 19 Oct 2009, 00:24

First, it doesn't matter if the fires were small or large. Even large fires cannot cause a collapse like that in 6 seconds. It's never happened before. And it's either impossible or one in a million.


That would make you completely wrong.

As to "pull it", what is your theory as to what Silverstein meant by it? That he was referring to the fire fighters? If so, he would have said "pull them" not "it". Plus, there were no firefighters in Building 7 at the time.


The claim that pull it means demolition is lie. I don't need to go any further on that issue. And your claims of wording are irrelevant.
Silverstein doesn't care about whether a building is taken down with cables or with explosives or thermite. That is a small technicality. Perhaps he was using a figure of speech to describe destroyingthe building. It's not clear. But saying that it refers to firefighters makes no sense.


All I am going to say on this issue is those that claim it means demolition are liars. End of story.
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Re: WTC 7 Video

Postby Nostradamus » 19 Oct 2009, 00:28

It is a demolition term. You can call a demolition company to verify this. Someone did and posted the conversation on Youtube. If you watch the film in this thread, it shows a bunch of people saying "let's pull building 6" just before it was taken down.

The thing is, it refers to bringing down a building with cables, not with explosives. So the question is what Silverstein really meant by it.

I'll bet Silverstein regrest everyday saying that on national TV. lol


Where are the cables?

I don't Silverstein regrets saying. I doubt he gives two hoots about a bunch of liars misrepresenting him. He has more important things to do with his life that be concerned with half wits telling lies.
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Re: WTC 7 Video

Postby Nostradamus » 19 Oct 2009, 00:31

I watched the video. Love the way that they jump back and forth between versions of the NIST report to claim discrepancies. Typical hogwash.
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Re: WTC 7 Video

Postby Nostradamus » 19 Oct 2009, 00:32

Can you explain why Building 7 fell with no resistance below it? How can so much steel and concrete become like air? Where is the resistance of all that material?


Just read the NIST report. You might learn something.
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Re: WTC 7 Video

Postby Nostradamus » 19 Oct 2009, 00:36

And finally to Scepcop, the madrid fire involved a building that was a very different construction than the WTC buildings. If you do a little research instead of tossing out "cocktail party lines" you will learn why it is important to build structures as was done in the madrid high rise instead of the way the WTC buildings were built.
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Re: WTC 7 Video

Postby accidentsinspace » 19 Oct 2009, 00:46

Nostradamus wrote:And finally to Scepcop, the madrid fire involved a building that was a very different construction than the WTC buildings. If you do a little research instead of tossing out "cocktail party lines" you will learn why it is important to build structures as was done in the madrid high rise instead of the way the WTC buildings were built.


Nostradamus, you really are OUT THERE with the faeries, arent you? :lol:

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Re: WTC 7 Video

Postby Nostradamus » 19 Oct 2009, 04:27

Nostradamus, you really are OUT THERE with the faeries, arent you?


Thanks accidentspace for making your lack of knowledge on issues so transparent.

Instead of your silly trash talk why don't you take the time to understand the fundamental difference in the buildings.
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Re: WTC 7 Video

Postby brett » 19 Oct 2009, 13:41

Nostradamus wrote:
Nostradamus, you really are OUT THERE with the faeries, arent you?


Thanks accidentspace for making your lack of knowledge on issues so transparent.

Instead of your silly trash talk why don't you take the time to understand the fundamental difference in the buildings.



and could you appraise us of your area of expertise in building construction ,and of the effects of fire on those buildings please accidentsinspace ( my apologies there nostradamus ) :oops:

oh and PLEASE don't come up with the "i don't have to tell you any thing about myself "cop out - if you have specialist knowledge of these areas - then please share it with us all - tell us WHY we are wrong - and why they fell down sooo quickly - and don't forget I have both knowledge and experience of building construction AND the effects of fires in them soo no BS EH ??

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Re: WTC 7 Video

Postby Edx » 21 Jul 2010, 01:04

Scepcop wrote:It is a demolition term. You can call a demolition company to verify this.


Yes, verify that it doesnt mean demolish a building with explosives.

Someone did and posted the conversation on Youtube. If you watch the film in this thread, it shows a bunch of people saying "let's pull building 6" just before it was taken down.


They mean LITERALLY, with cables. It doenst mean putting explosives into buildings.
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