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Court rules that MLK was killed by government conspiracy!

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Re: Court rules that MLK was killed by government conspiracy!

Postby Nostradamus » 28 Oct 2009, 10:11

Remember Pepper practices in England. So this is what I found from the Guardian Nov 28, 1999
http://www.guardian.co.uk/theobserver/1999/nov/28/life1.lifemagazine1

But Pepper's latest and most controversial allegation has offered his enemies a long awaited chance to put the knife into what they see as his wild conspiracy theories. In a book published in America, Pepper maintained he'd found evidence to show that several members of a secret military group were also in Memphis on 4 April, 1968 - with orders to kill King if the police sharpshooter failed. They were, Pepper said, a backup hit team from the 20th Special Forces Group based in Birmingham, Alabama, and led by a man called Billy Eidson. What's more, Pepper claimed that Eidson had since been killed to cover up the truth.

Apart from the vociferous denials from the 20th SFG, there was one major problem with this theory. Billy Eidson was very much alive - as a rather uncomfortable Bill Pepper discovered when ABC Television surprised him with the living proof of the error they'd so astutely uncovered. It was a moment of excruciating embarrassment that, to his credit, Bill Pepper handled with considerable dignity. 'I'd like to talk to him,' he offered, when told that the man he'd accused of attempted murder was waiting behind the scenes in the studio. Out came Eidson for an historic confrontation.

Pepper walked towards the former soldier with his hand outstretched. Eidson just stared at the unfortunate lawyer: 'No, I won't shake your hand,' he growled. 'I just want to look at you.' Pepper says it was an honest mistake. Eidson is now suing him for a sum thought to be in the region of $15 million.


More from the same story told by an investigator used by Pepper:
'I've got a good opinion of Bill, he's a nice enough guy,' Herman says in his broad southern drawl, 'but he's probably the most gullible person that I've ever met. You go to him with any story, and he'd take it for the truth... [It's] the fact that he's so naive. That's the word that describes my displeasure with him.'
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Re: Court rules that MLK was killed by government conspiracy!

Postby Nostradamus » 28 Oct 2009, 10:18

I thought I was done and then I bumped into this from the NY Daily News April 6, 1997 (again bolding is mine)
http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/1997/04/06/1997-04-06_mystery_man_ray_s_tales_of__.html
A must read for conspiracy lovers. I am only quoting the bottom part of the article.

As fantastic as this theory sounds that the government had King killed, then covered the tracks of a key conspirator it is a theory that recently picked up some heavy support from the 36-year-old son of the slain civil rights leader.

Dexter King told The News last week that he believed Ray was "an unknowing patsy," and that the New York Raoul deserved great scrutiny. Why, for instance, does this Raoul refuse to sit down with Pepper and simply clear his name?

"Why hasn't he been able to respond?" asked King, who also questioned how Raoul a supposedly simple assembly-line worker is now able to afford the legal services of one of Manhattan's finest firms, Reboul, MacMurray, Hewitt, Maynard & Kristol, with offices at 45 Rockefeller Plaza?

Attorneys at the firm said last week they were representing Raoul for free, and that while they had once considered talking to Pepper, they have decided he is incapable of accepting the truth.

"It seems to me that This guy [Pepper] is making his living by promoting a conspiracy theory he writes books, he goes on TV," said attorney Janet Mattick. "He is not going to be receptive to the truth."
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Re: Court rules that MLK was killed by government conspiracy!

Postby ProfWag » 28 Oct 2009, 19:40

That soft drink guy has no credibility in my book either.
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Re: Court rules that MLK was killed by government conspiracy!

Postby Nostradamus » 28 Oct 2009, 20:34

This case seems to be nothing more than something conspiracy fanatics use to claim that their pet conspiracy is true, because here is an example of another conspiracy that is true.

The problem is that this was a civil suit, not a criminal case. Since there was no effort at a defense, then any of the claims made by the plaintiff went unchallenged. Even a death went unchallenged till the still living person decided to sue the plaintiff's lawyer. The burden of proof is lower in a civil case. Since Scepcop does not answer any questions I'll tell all of the readers here that you only need 50% to win. In a criminal case you need 100% to win. If there is one no vote in a criminal case, then the jury cannot convict in a criminal proceeding. But in this case it was a slam dunk for the plaintiff. The jury had to award the judgment to the plaintiff since the defendant did not dispute the claims of the lawsuit. Does this in any way validate the testimony given over 4 weeks? NO, absolutely not.

What is interesting here is that with a civil lawsuit seeking $100 in damages, why did the defendant bother to hire a lawyer at over $100 an hour to sit in a court room for weeks on end that did not put up a defense? The reason anyone pays tens of thousands of dollars to save $100 is that there is an expectation of more cash. If the defendant had simply disregarded the call to court and had not shown up it would have been a summary judgment of $100 and the end of the story. The defendant would have received a letter directing them to pay $100. Had the defendant disregarded the order to pay, then the plaintiff would have been back in court seeking a means of restitution.

What is obvious here is that this was a formal version of a mock trial.

What little it did for the MLK claims have been usurped by others as a basis for furthering other conspiracy claims. I think it was White Tiger that was wondering about context. Context is important in understanding the evidence provided.
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Re: Court rules that MLK was killed by government conspiracy!

Postby Nostradamus » 29 Oct 2009, 08:16

Back to this huge lie, misrepresentation that has been posted.
From http://www.thefreelibrary.com/%5B0%5D+Daily+Briefing-a067830291

A judge in Charleston, S.C., has awarded $11 million to a man who said he was libeled in a book that claimed <b>Martin Luther King Jr.'s was a conspiracy among the government, sniper teams and organized crime. <b>Billy Ray Eidson </b>sued London lawyer <b>William Pepper This article is about the physician. For the lawyer, see William F. Pepper. William Pepper (August 21, 1843 - July 28, 1898), American physician, was born in Philadelphia. </b>and his publishers in 1997 for writing that Eidson was part of a Special Forces unit sent to Memphis on April 4, 1968, to kill King


The King's got $100 for their efforts. One of the maligned people in Pepper's baloney book got $11 million because Pepper was a liar.

From http://www.memphisflyer.com/backissues/issue565/anal565.htm
Pepper came something of a cropper when, appearing on the ubiquitous ABC network in 1997, he repeated an allegation from his book concerning an alleged conspirator who was deceased. The very much alive former Green Beret Billy Ray Eidson showed up on live TV to confront Pepper and has since sued Pepper for libel.


From http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=95490&page=1
udge Roger Young awarded $1 million in actual damages and $10 million in punitive damages Wednesday.

“Eidson may well spend the rest of his life trying to undo the damage done by Mr. Pepper,” Young wrote.

Winner By Default In court documents, Pepper denied Eidson’s allegations that he was negligent in his research. Pepper was later found in default for failing to appear after receiving notice of Eidson’s deposition and the damages hearing.

The judge wrote Eidson testified “callers threatened to kill his family and that he is constantly getting questions regarding his involvement in the plot. In fact, Eidson testifies his day-to-day routine has been altered substantially due to the recognition that has been thrust upon him.”

Eidson’s local attorney, Steve DeAntonio, did not return a telephone call seeking comment. Attempts to reach Pepper at his London office were unsuccessful.

The lawsuit also named Carroll & Graf Publishers Inc. and Warner Books Inc. Both settled with Eidson.


The breakdown is that the punitive damages were large meaning that the judge sent a message to Pepper that he did great damage by his disregard for the truth.
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Re: Court rules that MLK was killed by government conspiracy!

Postby Nostradamus » 29 Oct 2009, 08:20

So Scepcop why don't you change the title of this thread to something closer to the truth:

Court finds that crooked lawyer for King family is exposed as a liar
Lawyer that hookwinked King family guilty of libel for wantonly writing lies

Doesn't really matter which trial you referred to does it? Mock trial or mock trial it seems.
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