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Live Richard Gage Webcast Today at First Parish

Postby swecmzkor » 11 Oct 2009, 23:33

Hi everyone,

Just wanted to give you a heads up about the Live Richard Gage webcast today at 5 PM US Eastern. Check it out here: http://richardgageboston.org

Would be great if you could spread the message around. Richard Gage is probably the best person to see if your friends and relative have no clue about what happened on 9/11

Thanks for your time,

Carl Zetterlund
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Re: Live Richard Gage Webcast Today at First Parish

Postby NinjaPuppy » 12 Oct 2009, 00:36

swecmzkor wrote:Hi everyone,

Just wanted to give you a heads up about the Live Richard Gage webcast today at 5 PM US Eastern. Check it out here: http://richardgageboston.org

Would be great if you could spread the message around. Richard Gage is probably the best person to see if your friends and relative have no clue about what happened on 9/11

Thanks for your time,

Carl Zetterlund


Thanks for the 'heads up' Carl.

I'm curious about why you would think that some people would have "no clue about what happened on 9/11"?
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Re: Live Richard Gage Webcast Today at First Parish

Postby Nostradamus » 12 Oct 2009, 04:30

I looked down through the website and noticed the Smedley Butler Brigade as one of the groups sponsoring the talk. Here is what is on the SB page at Wikipedia:

In 1934, he alleged to the United States Congress that a group of wealthy industrialists had plotted a military coup known as the Business Plot to overthrow the government of President Franklin D. Roosevelt. The allegations were controversial.


Seems CTs are as old as politics.
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Re: Live Richard Gage Webcast Today at First Parish

Postby Nostradamus » 12 Oct 2009, 04:37

Certum est, quia impossibile - It is certain because it is impossible.


A nice out of context quote from Tertullian.
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Re: Live Richard Gage Webcast Today at First Parish

Postby NinjaPuppy » 12 Oct 2009, 04:59

Thanks Nostradamus. I did a bit of follow up from your information and I believe I now understand a connection.
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Re: Live Richard Gage Webcast Today at First Parish

Postby Nostradamus » 12 Oct 2009, 09:14

My goal was to toss in an obtuse reference.

I watched a part of Gage's lecture.

Questions:
1. Why does he use the lie of pyroclastics?
2. How come in a big city like Boston did so few people show up?
3. Why does he use the logical fallacy of begging the question almost allof the time?
4. Why does he run a straw man argument of the elevator modernization?
5. Why does he mischaracterize the internal layout of the building?
6. Why does he do so much begging for money?
7. Why does he claim that a 126mph ejection is due to explosives?
8. Why does he misrepresent the time of the collapse?
9. Why does he misrepresent the collapse sequence?

Because he is a fraud.
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Re: Live Richard Gage Webcast Today at First Parish

Postby NinjaPuppy » 12 Oct 2009, 09:18

I forgot to watch it. :cry:

The money thing is what always makes me suspicious of a person's motives. But that's just me. I realize that money is necessary to further a cause or talent or whatever but in many cases if you're right, you're right and it shouldn't take a bajillion dollars to make your point.
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Re: Live Richard Gage Webcast Today at First Parish

Postby Nostradamus » 12 Oct 2009, 09:35

This certainly looks like someone earning money from a crime and doing it by telling lies to get the money.
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Re: Live Richard Gage Webcast Today at First Parish

Postby Scepcop » 12 Oct 2009, 15:30

NinjaPuppy wrote:
swecmzkor wrote:Hi everyone,

Just wanted to give you a heads up about the Live Richard Gage webcast today at 5 PM US Eastern. Check it out here: http://richardgageboston.org

Would be great if you could spread the message around. Richard Gage is probably the best person to see if your friends and relative have no clue about what happened on 9/11

Thanks for your time,

Carl Zetterlund


Thanks for the 'heads up' Carl.

I'm curious about why you would think that some people would have "no clue about what happened on 9/11"?


He means that some people are not informed about all the evidence regarding 9/11.

For example, most don't know this:

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Re: Live Richard Gage Webcast Today at First Parish

Postby Scepcop » 12 Oct 2009, 15:32

Nostradamus wrote:I looked down through the website and noticed the Smedley Butler Brigade as one of the groups sponsoring the talk. Here is what is on the SB page at Wikipedia:

In 1934, he alleged to the United States Congress that a group of wealthy industrialists had plotted a military coup known as the Business Plot to overthrow the government of President Franklin D. Roosevelt. The allegations were controversial.


Seems CTs are as old as politics.


Where does it say the allegations were false?

Question: Do you think the following types of people would endorse something that was BS and backed by no evidence and put their full names to it?

http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/

200+ Senior Military, Intelligence Service, Law Enforcement, and Government Officials
700+ Engineers and Architects
200+ Pilots and Aviation Professionals
400+ Professors Question 9/11
230+ 9/11 Survivors and Family Members
200+ Artists, Entertainers, and Media Professionals
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Re: Live Richard Gage Webcast Today at First Parish

Postby Scepcop » 12 Oct 2009, 15:37

NinjaPuppy wrote:I forgot to watch it. :cry:

The money thing is what always makes me suspicious of a person's motives. But that's just me. I realize that money is necessary to further a cause or talent or whatever but in many cases if you're right, you're right and it shouldn't take a bajillion dollars to make your point.


I forgot to watch it too. I wonder if there's an archived version of it somewhere?

Gage only asks for a 5 dollar donation if you believe in his cause. He is not getting rich off this at all. That is a total lie by Nostradamus. Gage is using the funds to pay for the demo booths at the AIA convention to promote 9/11 Truth. They are very expensive. He is going to them and using the funds for that purpose. How does that make him a fraud.

Instead of listening to Nostradamus, look at Gage's website for the real info about what's going on.

http://www.ae911truth.org

As you can see it's very professional, clear and well laid out.

Remember that Nostradamus is some anonymous person on the internet. You don't even know his real name. But these people have put their real names to the 9/11 petition:

http://www.ae911truth.org/signpetition.php
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Re: Live Richard Gage Webcast Today at First Parish

Postby Scepcop » 12 Oct 2009, 15:58

You can watch some of the presentation today here on this home page video:

http://www.richardgageboston.org/
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Re: Live Richard Gage Webcast Today at First Parish

Postby Nostradamus » 12 Oct 2009, 20:09

He is not getting rich off this at all. That is a total lie by Nostradamus. Gage is using the funds to pay for the demo booths at the AIA convention to promote 9/11 Truth. They are very expensive. He is going to them and using the funds for that purpose. How does that make him a fraud.


Guess you didn't watch the video where he asks for 100 a month from people. That was his request.

He's a fraud for telling lies during his presentation.
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Re: Live Richard Gage Webcast Today at First Parish

Postby Nostradamus » 12 Oct 2009, 20:20

In response to Gage's charts:

1. Correct.
2. Lie. Most material was inside footprint.
3. Lie. No squibs.
4. Lie.
5. Correct.
6. Lie. That's aluminum cladding. Such an obvious lie.
7. Lie as explained below.
8. Lie. There were no pyroclastic clouds. It was clouds of wallboard.
9. Lie. No pools of molten iron.
10. Lie.


The so-called evidence is a logical fallacy employed by Gage called begging the question.
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Re: Live Richard Gage Webcast Today at First Parish

Postby Nostradamus » 12 Oct 2009, 20:25

Where does it say the allegations were false?


Read Time's article "Plot without plotters"
http://bailey83221.livejournal.com/47109.html

Question: Do you think the following types of people would endorse something that was BS and backed by no evidence and put their full names to it?


That a duh! Of course, there are are always people that put their names on lists without knowing what it is all about.

Gage, that fraud, goes on to claim in the video that the numbers are on his side. That's from a guy speaking to an empty hall in a major city. Where is the support?
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