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Postby ProfWag » 23 Aug 2009, 22:58

For those of you who think that the US government perpetrated the 9/11 attacks, there is nothing that can be written to prove that your theories are nothing more than a desire to spread your hate of the US Government. For everyone else who may not know what these conspiracy theorists are all about or found this website and have never heard of these outrageous fabrications, please refer to the website in the title of this thread.
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Re: http://www.debunking911.com

Postby highflyertoo » 24 Aug 2009, 09:59

How do scientists who the rogue skeptics put so much trust in explain how ''two six tonne Rolls Royce engines vapourized '' when colliding into the Pentagon????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Randi was no researcher of the paranormal even though he tried half heartedly.... Shows over.
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Re: http://www.debunking911.com

Postby ProfWag » 24 Aug 2009, 20:31

highflyertoo wrote:How do scientists who the rogue skeptics put so much trust in explain how ''two six tonne Rolls Royce engines vapourized '' when colliding into the Pentagon????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Here's a picture of the engine. What are you talking about Dave?
http://www.911myths.com/html/pentagon_4.html
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Re: http://www.debunking911.com

Postby highflyertoo » 24 Aug 2009, 21:26

ProfWag wrote:
highflyertoo wrote:How do scientists who the rogue skeptics put so much trust in explain how ''two six tonne Rolls Royce engines vapourized '' when colliding into the Pentagon????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Here's a picture of the engine. What are you talking about Dave?
http://www.911myths.com/html/pentagon_4.html


My name 's not Dave.

Now show me footage of the plane ''frame by frame'' penetrating into the Pentagon on 911.

Oh , you can't produce the photos.

How is it the FBI won't allow the American Public to see the footage when it was the ''PUBLIC'' who bore the brunt of of the callous attacks?

THE PEOPLE HAVE RIGHTS TO VIEW THE FACTS !!!
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Re: http://www.debunking911.com

Postby ProfWag » 24 Aug 2009, 21:45

highflyertoo wrote:
My name 's not Dave.


Yea. Okay.
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Re: http://www.debunking911.com

Postby ProfWag » 24 Aug 2009, 22:20

highflyertoo wrote:
ProfWag wrote:
highflyertoo wrote:How do scientists who the rogue skeptics put so much trust in explain how ''two six tonne Rolls Royce engines vapourized '' when colliding into the Pentagon????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Here's a picture of the engine. What are you talking about Dave?
http://www.911myths.com/html/pentagon_4.html


My name 's not Dave.

Now show me footage of the plane ''frame by frame'' penetrating into the Pentagon on 911.

Oh , you can't produce the photos.

How is it the FBI won't allow the American Public to see the footage when it was the ''PUBLIC'' who bore the brunt of of the callous attacks?

THE PEOPLE HAVE RIGHTS TO VIEW THE FACTS !!!


highflyertoo (or anyone else up to the challenge), please contact the families of one of the below people and tell them their loved one did not crash into the Pentagon on 9/11. Let us all know how that turned out.

Crew:
CAPTAIN CHARLES BURLINGAME, 51, pilot, graduate of the U.S. Naval Academy,
flew fighter planes off the U.S.S. Saratoga.
DAVID CHARLEBOIS, Washington, D.C., first officer
MICHELLE HEIDENBERGER, 57, Chevy Chase, Md., flight attendant.
JENNIFER LEWIS, 38, Culpepper, Va., flight attendant
KENNETH LEWIS, 49, Culpepper, Va., flight attendant
RENEE MAY, 39, Baltimore, Md., flight attendant
Passengers:
DR. PAUL AMBROSE, 32, physician.
YEMEN BETRU, 35, Burbank, Calif., director of medical affairs for hospital
services company IPC
M.J. BOOTH
BERNARD BROWN, 11, student, Leckie Elementary School in Washington
SUZANNE CALLEY, 42, San Martin, Calif., employee of Cisco Systems Inc.
WILLIAM CASWELL, 54, Silver Spring, Md., physicist, Navy
SARAH CLARK, 65, Columbia, Md., sixth-grade teacher, Backus Middle School in
Washington
ZANDRA COOPER, Annandale, Va.
ASIA COTTOM, 11, student at Backus Elementary School in Washington, D.C.
JAMES DEBEUNEURE, 58, Upper Marlboro, Md., fifth-grade teacher at Ketcham
Elementary School in Washington, D.C.
RODNEY DICKENS, 11, student, Ketcham Elementary School in Washington, D.C.
EDDIE DILLARD
CHARLES DROZ, 52, Springfield, Va., vice president for software development,
EM Solutions Inc.
BARBARA G. EDWARDS, 58, Las Vegas, school teacher at Palo Verde High School
in Las Vegas
CHARLES S. FALKENBERG, 45, University Park, Md., director of research at
ECOlogic Corp., in Herndon, Va.
DANA FALKENBERG, 3, University Park, Md.
ZOE FALKENBERG, 8, University Park, Md.
JAMES JOE FERGUSON, 39, District of Columbia, education outreach director of
National Geographic Society
WILLIAM "BUD" FLAGG, Millwood, Va., retired Navy admiral and pilot for
American Airlines
DARLENE "DEE" FLAGG, Millwood, Va.
RICHARD P. GABRIEL SR., 54, Great Falls, Va., managing partner, Stratin
Consulting
IAN GRAY, 55, Washington, D.C., president of healthcare consulting firm
STANLEY HALL, 68, Rancho Palos Verdes, Calif., Raytheon Co.
BRYAN JACK, 48, Alexandria, Va., senior executive at Defense Department
STEVEN D. "JAKE" JACOBY, 43, Alexandria, Va., chief operating officer,
Metrocall Inc.
ANN JUDGE, 49, Great Falls, Va., travel officer manager, National Geographic
Society
CHANDLER KELLER, 29, of El Segundo, Calif., was a propulsion engineer for
Boeing Satellite Systems and got married last year. Chandler's parents,
Richard and Kathy, live in Del Mar.
YVONNE KENNEDY
NORMA KHAN, 45, Reston, Va., manager of a nonprofit organization
KAREN A. KINCAID, 40, lawyer with the Washington, D.C. law firm of Wiley
Rein & Fielding.
DONG LEE, 48, Leesburg, Va., engineer, Boeing Inc.
DORA MENCHACA, 45, Santa Monica, Calif., associate director of clinical
research for biotech firm
CHRISTOPHER NEWTON, 38, Arlington, Va., executive, Work Life Benefits
BARBARA OLSON, 45, was the wife of U.S. Solicitor General Theodore Olson.
She was aboard American Flight 77 from Dulles International Airport when it
crashed into the Pentagon. She twice called her husband as the plane was
being hijacked and described some details, including that the attackers were
using knife-like instruments. Barbara Olson was a chief investigator for the
House Government Reform Committee in the mid-1990s. She later became a
lawyer on the staff of Senate Minority Whip Don Nickles, before branching
out on her own as a TV commentator and private lawyer. She was a frequent
critic of the Clinton administration and wrote a book about Hillary Rodham
Clinton.
RUBEN ORNEDO, 39, Los Angeles, Boeing propulsion engineer
ROBERT PENNIGER, a 63-year-old electrical engineer, worked for defense
contractor BAE Systems in Rancho Bernardo, San Diego. Neighbors say that
Penninger and his wife, Janet, loved to take motorcycle trips together. They
have one daughter, Karen. Penninger has worked for BAE Systems in Rancho
Bernardo for the past 11 years.
ROBERT R. PLOGER III, 59, Annandale, Va., software architect, Lockheed
Martin Corp.
LISA RAINES, 42, senior vice president of biotechnology firm
TODD REUBEN, 40, Potomac, Md., Washington tax and business lawyer
JOHN SAMMARTINO, 37, Annandale, Va., technical manager, XonTech Inc.
YANG SHUYIN, Beijing, China
DIANE SIMMONS
GEORGE SIMMONS
MARI RAE SOPPER, 35, Santa Barbara, Calif., women's gymnastics coash,
UC-Santa Barbara
BOB SPEISMAN, 47, Irvington, N.Y., diamond industry salesman
NORMA LANG STEUERLE, 54, Alexandria, Va.
HILDA TAYLOR, sixth grade teacher at Leckie Elementary School in Washington
LEONARD TAYLOR, 44, Reston, Va., technical group manager, XonTech Inc.
SANDRA TEAGUE, 31, a physical therapist at Georgetown University Hospital in
Washington
LESLIE A. WHITTINGTON, 45, University Park, Md., Georgetown University
professor.
JOHN YAMNICKY, 71, Waldorf, Md.
VICKI YANCEY, 44, Springfield, Va., employee of defense contractor
Vredenburg
ZHENG YUGUAG, Beijing, China
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Re: http://www.debunking911.com

Postby highflyertoo » 25 Aug 2009, 08:47

The guilty people are them that murdered the passengers. SO YOU ARE BY NO MEANS MAKING ME FEEL GUILTY WITH A LIST OF DEAD PEOPLE.

ProfWag. Show me the Film Footage of the plane crashing into the Pentagon or SHUT UP !
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Postby highflyertoo » 25 Aug 2009, 08:53

The American Military ''FAILED'' to provide adequete national security for it's citizens.

The FBI failed to ensure peace for it's countrymen.The FBI has no legal rights to with hold evidence that it allowed to cause the death of so many ''so often''.

It's my right to know the truth unhindered as a resident on this planet. Either you are for the public or against the public !!!
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Re: http://www.debunking911.com

Postby ProfWag » 25 Aug 2009, 09:39

highflyertoo wrote:The guilty people are them that murdered the passengers. SO YOU ARE BY NO MEANS MAKING ME FEEL GUILTY WITH A LIST OF DEAD PEOPLE.

ProfWag. Show me the Film Footage of the plane crashing into the Pentagon or SHUT UP !

Excuse me? Where the hell did that come from? And what film footage might that be that exists that you haven't seen?
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Postby ProfWag » 25 Aug 2009, 09:41

highflyertoo wrote:The American Military ''FAILED'' to provide adequete national security for it's citizens.

The FBI failed to ensure peace for it's countrymen.The FBI has no legal rights to with hold evidence that it allowed to cause the death of so many ''so often''.

It's my right to know the truth unhindered as a resident on this planet. Either you are for the public or against the public !!!

No, the military did not fail in its national security.
No, it's not the responsibility of the FBI to ensure peace.
And no, it's not your right to always know the truth.
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Re: http://www.debunking911.com

Postby highflyertoo » 25 Aug 2009, 09:58

ProfWag wrote:
highflyertoo wrote:The American Military ''FAILED'' to provide adequete national security for it's citizens.

The FBI failed to ensure peace for it's countrymen.The FBI has no legal rights to with hold evidence that it allowed to cause the death of so many ''so often''.

It's my right to know the truth unhindered as a resident on this planet. Either you are for the public or against the public !!!

No, the military did not fail in its national security.
No, it's not the responsibility of the FBI to ensure peace.
And no, it's not your right to always know the truth.


The FBI has yet to release film footage's of the plane crashing into the pentagon and the plane's approach prior to crashing into the pentagon.

And it is my right and the public's right to always know the truth when terrorism is especially involved.
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Re: http://www.debunking911.com

Postby ProfWag » 25 Aug 2009, 19:51

highflyertoo wrote:
ProfWag wrote:
highflyertoo wrote:The American Military ''FAILED'' to provide adequete national security for it's citizens.

The FBI failed to ensure peace for it's countrymen.The FBI has no legal rights to with hold evidence that it allowed to cause the death of so many ''so often''.

It's my right to know the truth unhindered as a resident on this planet. Either you are for the public or against the public !!!

No, the military did not fail in its national security.
No, it's not the responsibility of the FBI to ensure peace.
And no, it's not your right to always know the truth.


The FBI has yet to release film footage's of the plane crashing into the pentagon and the plane's approach prior to crashing into the pentagon.

And it is my right and the public's right to always know the truth when terrorism is especially involved.

What reference do you have that says the FBI has footage that has not been made public?
And no, in the interest of national security, you do not have the right to always know things that are classified. Assuming for a moment that they FBI does have additional footage, then would that not give away where their security cameras are located? Personally, if I still worked in D.C., I would not want you or anyone else to know where they are located for my own safety.
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Re: http://www.debunking911.com

Postby Scepcop » 26 Aug 2009, 07:18

ProfWag wrote:
highflyertoo wrote:How do scientists who the rogue skeptics put so much trust in explain how ''two six tonne Rolls Royce engines vapourized '' when colliding into the Pentagon????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Here's a picture of the engine. What are you talking about Dave?
http://www.911myths.com/html/pentagon_4.html


Dang you're gullible. Experts have already seen that and said it isn't from a 757. I thought you were going to show the picture of that small cylinder thing and claim it was from a 757, which is laughable.

ProfWag, do you see any debris here?

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Re: http://www.debunking911.com

Postby Scepcop » 26 Aug 2009, 07:25

highflyertoo wrote:The American Military ''FAILED'' to provide adequete national security for it's citizens.

The FBI failed to ensure peace for it's countrymen.The FBI has no legal rights to with hold evidence that it allowed to cause the death of so many ''so often''.

It's my right to know the truth unhindered as a resident on this planet. Either you are for the public or against the public !!!


highflyertoo, profwag has no power or authority to release the 85 videos of the pentagon. It's no use asking him.

Someone is already trying to do that, but the FBI refuses. Here is their letter about it.

http://www.flight77.info/85videos.html

ProfWag, can you give us one logical reason why the FBI won't release these 85 videos? How are these videos a threat to national security?
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Re: http://www.debunking911.com

Postby Scepcop » 26 Aug 2009, 07:28

ProfWag wrote:
highflyertoo wrote:The American Military ''FAILED'' to provide adequete national security for it's citizens.

The FBI failed to ensure peace for it's countrymen.The FBI has no legal rights to with hold evidence that it allowed to cause the death of so many ''so often''.

It's my right to know the truth unhindered as a resident on this planet. Either you are for the public or against the public !!!

No, the military did not fail in its national security.
No, it's not the responsibility of the FBI to ensure peace.
And no, it's not your right to always know the truth.


Tell that to the families of the victims you listed. And see how that turns out...
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