Discuss Conspiracies and Cover Ups - e.g. 9/11 Truth, JFK Assassination, New World Order, Roswell, Moon Hoax, Secret Societies, etc. whatever conspiracy floats your boat.
yeah, that's the photoshopped one from NASA where the orientation of the supposed instruments is 90 degrees round to the supposed pics from the surface of the moon from the supposed Apollo mission. Whoops!.
Except those pictures do not belong to NASA. They are part of a study from Arizona State University. I think the "whoops" is on you and your CT friends, Syd. Again I repeat, do your homework!!!
Of course, I guess you could claim that the students at Arizona State University are now in on a moon landing hoax from 4 decades ago, but...
yeah, that's the photoshopped one from NASA where the orientation of the supposed instruments is 90 degrees round to the supposed pics from the surface of the moon from the supposed Apollo mission. Whoops!.
Except those pictures do not belong to NASA. They are part of a study from Arizona State University. I think the "whoops" is on you and your CT friends, Syd. Again I repeat, do your homework!!!
Of course, I guess you could claim that the students at Arizona State University are now in on a moon landing hoax from 4 decades ago, but...
quite possibly they are!? who put the LRO up there, Arizona State University? Who supplied the pic? This is ridiculous.
a little hard for me to make out but couldn't find any rebuttals from these countries. the pros know what to look for. I wouldn't know what to look for in a dna chart either.
SydneyPSIder wrote:quite possibly they are!? who put the LRO up there, Arizona State University? Who supplied the pic? This is ridiculous.
Finally you said something I agree with! Yes, this is ridiculous! Here are the names of the scientists taking and managing the pictures. I don't see the word "NASA" anywhere on the list. Do you? http://lroc.sese.asu.edu/EPO/Team/scientist.html
Oh, and by the way, these distinguished and educated ladies and gentlemen would also have to be in on a moon landing hoax from 40 years ago. You say we didn't go to the moon? Yes, that is quite ridiculous indeed.
Watch as the swinging gets narrow before it stops.
It looks a little faster than the Apollo flag which could be explained by the slow-motion at which the Apollo footage is shown (sixty seven percent according to Jarrah White). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymwE1sNm82Y (2:37 time mark)
The Apollo flag is moving much faster than the speed at which the video shows it should be moving at the 18:50 time mark.
Let's hear some analyses of this from the pro-Apollo posters.
It seems to close the whole case by itself. Do any of you pro-Apollo posters want to address it?
Watch as the swinging gets narrow before it stops.
It looks a little faster than the Apollo flag which could be explained by the slow-motion at which the Apollo footage is shown (sixty seven percent according to Jarrah White). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymwE1sNm82Y (2:37 time mark)
The Apollo flag is moving much faster than the speed at which the video shows it should be moving at the 18:50 time mark.
Let's hear some analyses of this from the pro-Apollo posters.
It seems to close the whole case by itself. Do any of you pro-Apollo posters want to address it?
Already have Freddy. Page 3. And no, it doesn't "close the whole case by itself." However, since it appears you would rather watch youtube videos rather than do actual research from scientists, here's a youtube video. Should be right up your alley.
I didn't see him make any reference whatsoever to the variables that distinguish the differences. He moves some numbers and says things such as "this is about what it would be on the moon."
You're trying to mislead those viewers who don't take the time to watch the whole video. He enters the numbers into a formula.
Viewers, if you don't have time to watch the video, please withhold judgement until you can watch it. Please don't be swayed by condescending attitudes and rhetoric.
We can't see how long Jarrah's flag keeps moving because we're looking at it from the side. The material also looks lighter. If the flag is made of heavier material, air dampening would be negligible at that narrow swinging angle.
BetaMax—the guy who made that video— has been shown to be a sophist by some of the things he's said.
We can't see how long Jarrah's flag keeps moving because we're looking at it from the side. The material also looks lighter. If the flag is made of heavier material, air dampening would be negligible at that narrow swinging angle.
Okay, let's think about this for a minute. You're referencing a guy who is neither an astrophysicist nor a scientist in any form. This guy uses legos and flags set up in his bedroom to try to dispel the evidence of one of the greatest scientific achievements of all time that virtually every single scientist in the world agrees with and that is, we landed on the moon and brought back moon rocks. And you say the video I show is misleading? Mr. Freddy, please look at the facts from an unbiased perspective. I would like to present a challenge. Would you please show evidence from one--just one--astrophysicist or a peer-reviewed scientist in their field who has ANY doubt on the success of the Apollo missions. Again, I'm just looking for one. I will add, however, that evidence from a chemist trying to be a physicist doesn't count. Good luck and we'll be waiting!
And so do I, but I'm not smart enough on the subject to discuss intelligently. I don't have the time to research it thoroughly at this time which means that I would have to rely on other people's opinions.
SydneyPSIder wrote:quite possibly they are!? who put the LRO up there, Arizona State University? Who supplied the pic? This is ridiculous.
Finally you said something I agree with! Yes, this is ridiculous! Here are the names of the scientists taking and managing the pictures. I don't see the word "NASA" anywhere on the list. Do you? http://lroc.sese.asu.edu/EPO/Team/scientist.html
Oh, and by the way, these distinguished and educated ladies and gentlemen would also have to be in on a moon landing hoax from 40 years ago. You say we didn't go to the moon? Yes, that is quite ridiculous indeed.
You're saying it's impossible to introduce a doctored photo? For 'national security/reputation' reasons?
Okay, let's think about this for a minute. You're referencing a guy who is neither an astrophysicist nor a scientist in any form. This guy uses legos and flags set up in his bedroom to try to dispel the evidence of one of the greatest scientific achievements of all time that virtually every single scientist in the world agrees with and that is, we landed on the moon and brought back moon rocks. And you say the video I show is misleading? Mr. Freddy, please look at the facts from an unbiased perspective. I would like to present a challenge. Would you please show evidence from one--just one--astrophysicist or a peer-reviewed scientist in their field who has ANY doubt on the success of the Apollo missions. Again, I'm just looking for one. I will add, however, that evidence from a chemist trying to be a physicist doesn't count. Good luck and we'll be waiting!
If a guy points out an anomaly that nobody can explain, it doesn't matter who he is.
http://theconspiracyzone.podcastpeople.com/posts/28159 (excerpts) --------------------------------------------- Q: Why do prominent astronomers like Sir Bernard Lovell and Patrick Moore support the Moon landings if they were faked?
A: Scientists and astronomers around the globe know full well that the Moon missions were faked, but rely on NASA to gain access to the vital data beamed back to Earth from the Hubble space telescope. They cannot slag off NASA otherwise NASA would deprive them of this essential information, which they so much require.
FatFreddy wrote: I would like to present a challenge. Would you please show evidence from one--just one--astrophysicist or a peer-reviewed scientist in their field who has ANY doubt on the success of the Apollo missions. Again, I'm just looking for one. I will add, however, that evidence from a chemist trying to be a physicist doesn't count. Good luck and we'll be waiting!
There's a list of people who believe Apollo was a hoax here. http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Moon_Hoax [/quote] Okay, so I looked through your wiki references and the list of people who believe it was a hoax. Unfortunately, I didn't find one astrophysicist or peer-reviewed scientist in their field. There were filmmakers, violinists, and Russian politicians, but I don't see anyone in the field of astrophysics. I have to admit, I didn't know that Hugo Chavez didn't believe, and his name as a reference to the success of something American kind of tickles me. So, I'll continue wait for that one credible, peer-reviewed scientist. If you don't know what "peer-reviewed" means, you can probably find that on wikipedia as well...
