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Re: JFK 50TH Anniversary

Postby SydneyPSIder » 08 May 2014, 10:58

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Re: JFK 50TH Anniversary

Postby SydneyPSIder » 08 May 2014, 11:19

Part 4 of the series looks at LHO as a patsy, and also at the low likelihood of performing all the actions he was alleged to have performed in 90 seconds, including shooting someone fatally, discarding a rifle, running down several floors at full pace, buying a Coke, and being discovered not the least bit flustered or out of breath by a policeman at that point. Yet somehow Dallas Police had been advised to look for someone matching his appearance exactly in the area from some mysterious source? How would they know it was him? Why would he even be a suspect at all at that point in time? The fact that NO shots were reported by eyewitnesses to have come from the TSPD building and the lack of LHO's fingerprints on the rifle until some days later where a single palmprint was 'discovered' (how do you aim and fire a gun with just your palm?) and the strange appearance of a supposedly incriminating whole undamaged bullet in the hospital on JFK's stretcher (???) confirms the likelihood that he was set up as a patsy, and as someone who prided himself on being a small-time intelligence operative who had previously been sent to Russia as a mole and so on who had been gulled into doing certain things without full explanation.

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Re: JFK 50TH Anniversary

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Re: JFK 50TH Anniversary

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Re: JFK 50TH Anniversary

Postby SydneyPSIder » 08 May 2014, 16:38

Just for a change of pace:

The Man Who Killed Kennedy: The Case Against LBJ



The ridiculousness of ProfWag's attempted arguments are laid bare in this talk.
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Re: JFK 50TH Anniversary

Postby ProfWag » 09 May 2014, 07:12

Syd, wouldn't it just be easier for you to make one post to beg people to watch The Men Who Killed Kennedy rather than several rambling posts? Those of us who are actually interested in finding out the truth already have seen it. Yawn. And you're saying my posts are ridiculous when each one of your posts points to a different person (i.e. LBJ.)? You crack me up Syd. Again, nothing new or original. Everything you've just posted is pure speculation and not tied to evidence. Let us know when you have something solid. We'll be waiting...and waiting...and waiting...
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Re: JFK 50TH Anniversary

Postby SydneyPSIder » 09 May 2014, 14:54

thanks for another useless deliberately distracting and diverting post, profwag. I'm actually going to post in the rest of the series as it's a convenient way to view the segments without going to youtube. how do you like them apples?

it gets tiring rebutting your fallacies, non sequiturs and red herrings. each post does NOT point to a different person, LBJ has been central throughout as a key organising guilty figure, but they certainly point to a collusion between a number of vested interests -- elements in the CIA, FBI, Texan oil circles, the military-industrialists and links to the Mafia using people like Jack Ruby and possibly recruiting various assassins -- as pointed out in the documentary parts above. you don't seem to have taken the time to gain the holistic picture being presented. further, it's not pure speculation, it's obviously deeply grounded in numerous firsthand eyewitness statements, as well as further private investigations, which you find uncomfortable because they go against your own personal agendas and against the convenient official findings of the Warren Commission. You seem to want to suppress the continued publicisation of these enquiries and views. Over and over again leads were not investigated by the FBI or Dallas Police, suggesting a political cover-up of the first order by powerful vested interests -- interests whom you may well personally be representing here. I mean, no-one could be as wilfully dumb as to seriously present the views you are putting forward without being paid for it.
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Re: JFK 50TH Anniversary

Postby SydneyPSIder » 09 May 2014, 17:52

profwag's timely post leads us conveniently to part 6: testimony from military ppl who spoke to CIA ppl who may have planned the exercise, along with researchers who concluded from the zapruder pictorial evidence that the fatal shot must have come from the stormwater drain at road level, with an easily accessed manhole cover and egress to the stormwater system some way off.

one operator, a Lt Col Dan Marvin, working in special forces notes that there was a govt policy to recruit mafia hitmen for jobs inside America, special forces soldiers for outside. he also points out that CIA trainers appeared to have been directly involved in planning the exercise. he claims he was asked to kill Navy Commander Bill Pitzer who had JFK's autopsy images in his possession from the Bethesda hospital autopsy (conducted against all state and Federal regulations after a homicide had been committed, and which did not allow for the calculation of bullet trajectories and directions, for instance), where he declined, only to learn that the Commander had 'suicided' 2 years later by using a gun in his right hand (as a left hander) and who mysteriously had a mangled left hand as though suffering from torture. apparently this was a common use for such special forces recruits in that decade. here we see the military interactions between CIA and regular army.

note commentary from the special forces operative particularly from 17:46:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAdz78lgu8Y#t=1066

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Re: JFK 50TH Anniversary

Postby SydneyPSIder » 10 May 2014, 07:17

Parts 7-9 -- also very disturbing. These last 3 episodes were made later, in 2003, and were withdrawn out of deference to protecting some of the govt criminals involved.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Men_Who_Killed_Kennedy





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Re: JFK 50TH Anniversary

Postby ProfWag » 10 May 2014, 20:35

Here is all that needs to be said about the credibility of "The Men Who Killed Kennedy:"

"In an hourlong program to be broadcast tonight, the History Channel will engage in an unusual mea culpa, presenting an evaluation of one of its own programs that concludes that it and the channel were irresponsible.

Tonight's program (at 8; 7, Central time) was produced in response to vociferous complaints about a documentary, ''The Guilty Men,'' that accused former President Lyndon B. Johnson of being complicit in the assassination of his predecessor, John F. Kennedy. It was broadcast in November, during the week of the 40th anniversary of President Kennedy's death, and a squall of protest arose shortly afterward, led by the broadcaster Bill Moyers; Jack Valenti, president of the Motion Picture Association of America; and others who worked for Johnson during his presidency. They were supported by Lady Bird Johnson, the president's widow.

The History Channel subsequently asked three prominent historians -- Robert Dallek, Stanley I. Kutler and Thomas Sugrue -- to make an independent evaluation of the documentary. Their findings are the subject of tonight's program, called ''The Guilty Men: A Historical Review.'' In a statement the History Channel acknowledged that the historians determined that the accusation against Johnson was insupportable and that the documentary should not have been broadcast.

''After reflecting on the historians' comments and conducting its own internal review,'' the statement said in part, ''the History Channel recognizes that 'The Guilty Men' failed to offer viewers context and perspective, and fell short of the high standards that the network sets for itself. The History Channel apologizes to its viewers and to Mrs. Johnson and her family for airing the show.''
Barr McClellan, the author of a book that makes similar accusations against President Johnson and who was a central interview subject in ''The Guilty Men,'' said he was disappointed that none of the three historians got in touch with him, or the film's producer, Nigel Turner, to ask about their sources or their evidence. He said that he stands by his research. Mr. Turner could not be reached."
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/07/arts/ ... gizes.html
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Re: JFK 50TH Anniversary

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Re: JFK 50TH Anniversary

Postby ProfWag » 11 May 2014, 20:18

And yet 50 years later, we still don't have any other solid suspect and nothing but circumstantial evidence for anyone other than the solid evidence of LHO for which we do have extremely solid evidence. Other evidence may suggest that others were involved in a potential plot or planning, but nothing at all that would suggest anyone other than LHO acting alone on Nov 22, 1963. Your mention of people hearing shots from the knoll, etc. are dwarfed by the number of people who claim all shots came from the 6th floor.
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Re: JFK 50TH Anniversary

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Re: JFK 50TH Anniversary

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Re: JFK 50TH Anniversary

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