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US gov site tries to debunk conspiracy theories! Hilarious!

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US gov site tries to debunk conspiracy theories! Hilarious!

Postby Scepcop » 01 Jun 2013, 00:14

Check this out. It's the only government site that I know of that tries to debunk conspiracy theories. lol

http://www.america.gov/conspiracy_theories.html

However, whoever wrote it did a very sloppy job. It was obvious that his heart wasn't in it, and it looked like he was trying to rush through it. He even used a lot of ad hominem attacks, which is unusual for a government website. You'd think that the government could hire better writers wouldn't you?

Apparently, whoever wrote up this site thinks that one liners and denials are enough to debunk mountains of compelling scientific evidence for conspiracies and cover ups in major events such as the JFK Assassination and 9/11. Yeah right. How pathetic.

I wonder why the US government never sends any representatives to debate conspiracy researchers or answer their questions? It's like they are unable to debate or know they'd totally fail at it because they have so much to hide, since obfuscation is not going to work against intellectual truth seekers. So they don't bother to participate or have an open discussion with critical thinkers.

Anyhow, have a look at the link above and have a good laugh.
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Re: US gov site tries to debunk conspiracy theories! Hilario

Postby ProfWag » 01 Jun 2013, 09:13

Actually, I kind of agree with Scepcop on a point here. The writing is rather dull. Of course, most conspiracy theories are also a yawn so it comes with the territory it appears. Besides, I don't read many exciting works from within the government anyway, even when they are not lying to us.
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Re: US gov site tries to debunk conspiracy theories! Hilario

Postby ProfWag » 01 Jun 2013, 09:21

Scepcop wrote: He even used a lot of ad hominem attacks, which is unusual for a government website.

Ad hominem, such as getting called a dipshit by someone after expressing a viewpoint?
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Re: US gov site tries to debunk conspiracy theories! Hilario

Postby really? » 01 Jun 2013, 10:27

Scepcop wrote:Check this out. It's the only government site that I know of that tries to debunk conspiracy theories. lol

http://www.america.gov/conspiracy_theories.html

He even used a lot of ad hominem attacks, which is unusual for a government website.


Ok, let's see if they did use ad homs. Copy and paste them in your next post. Here's the correct definition of an Ad Hominem: Ad hominem attacks can take the form of overtly attacking somebody, or more subtly casting doubt on their character or personal attributes as a way to discredit their argument. The result of an ad hom attack can be to undermine someone's case without actually having to engage with it.
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Re: US gov site tries to debunk conspiracy theories! Hilario

Postby SydneyPSIder » 01 Jun 2013, 14:09

NASA is employing a professional debunker/spin doctor or two of course...
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Re: US gov site tries to debunk conspiracy theories! Hilario

Postby ProfWag » 04 Jun 2013, 07:11

SydneyPSIder wrote:NASA is employing a professional debunker/spin doctor or two of course...

They are? Who are they?
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Re: US gov site tries to debunk conspiracy theories! Hilario

Postby Scepcop » 16 Jun 2015, 00:30

really? wrote:
Scepcop wrote:Check this out. It's the only government site that I know of that tries to debunk conspiracy theories. lol

http://www.america.gov/conspiracy_theories.html

He even used a lot of ad hominem attacks, which is unusual for a government website.


Ok, let's see if they did use ad homs. Copy and paste them in your next post. Here's the correct definition of an Ad Hominem: Ad hominem attacks can take the form of overtly attacking somebody, or more subtly casting doubt on their character or personal attributes as a way to discredit their argument. The result of an ad hom attack can be to undermine someone's case without actually having to engage with it.


What I mean is that the site tries to claim that people who believe in conspiracies rather than official government stories are delusional or mentally disturbed in some way. Rather than discussing evidence and logic, the site tries to discredit the other side by claiming they are insane or have mental issues. That is ad hominem no doubt. Truth is determined by evidence, not authority. But government sites and pro-establishment sites don't go by this axiom. Instead, they take whatever authority says on faith and ridicules anyone who questions it. That's definitely ad hominem. Make sense?
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Re: US gov site tries to debunk conspiracy theories! Hilario

Postby Scepcop » 16 Jun 2015, 00:31

Apparently, the establishment or US government uses sites like Live Science, Huffington Post and Scientific American to try to debunk all "conspiracy theories" as insane and ridiculous and baseless. Check out these from Live Science which ridicule all "conspiracy theories" and claim that only official government claims are true.

http://www.livescience.com/11375-top-ten-conspiracy-theories.html
http://www.livescience.com/18171-contradicting-conspiracy-theories-mistrust.html
http://www.livescience.com/4625-article-conspiracies-part-conspiracy.html

I wrote a letter to their authors and sent it to them and posted it in their comments section:

"To Wynne Parry:

Why doesn't you be fair and do an article about contradicting government stories or how the government and elite have lied hundreds of times? The reasons is obvious: If she did, then Live Science would not publish it. Duh! You either conform to the party line, or you don't get published. So much for free speech.

Instead of trying to claim that conspiracy believers are delusional, Ms. Parry, you should debate the EVIDENCE. Truth depends on EVIDENCE Mr. Parry. Truth does not come from authority like you assume. You and Live Science seem to advocate that a reasonable person should believe EVERYTHING the government and controlled mainstream media tell us and take it on faith, and only apply skepticism to conspiracy theories. That's illogical. Truth does not come from authority, it comes from evidence and reason. So Live Science is no defender of logic or science.

Moreover, science does NOT claim that conspiracy allegations (not theories) are false, or that the paranormal doesn't exist. Only humanists who are BIASED with an agenda claim that, not science itself. Science is just a tool, it does not hold political opinions as Live Science and Wynne Parry falsely assume.

Finally Ms. Parry, FYI Princess Diana was murdered. The evidence is obvious:

1) The 24 hour security cameras in the tunnel were switched off just before the accident. What a coincidence. Not!
2) The ambulance took more than one hour to get her to the hospital, even though the hospital was only 5 minutes away. This was late at night too, so traffic was not an issue, and even if it was, ambulances have the authority to clear away traffic in front of it as everyone knows. There is no excuse for that. That was definitely deliberate FOUL PLAY. There's no way around it.
3) Princess Diana herself wrote in her diary that she was going to be murdered. That should tell you something.
4) Several MI 5 whistleblowers have said that there was a plot to kill Diana.
5) The driver was not intoxicated. His friends said that he rarely ever even drank.
6) The Royal Family have murdered many people in the past, so why is it impossible for them to murder Diana? Simply because authority=truth and therefore if they deny it, then it must be true? What kind of "science" is that? Shame on you Live Science, for calling yourself "science"!
7) A jury ruled that Diana was murdered by a conspiracy. See the banned documentary "Unlawful Killing" but that ruling was distorted and suppressed by the mainstream media. Gee I wonder why.

Ms. Parry, you KNOW that all the above prove that Diana was murdered. How do you sleep at night knowing that you are LYING? Doesn't it feel bad to sell your soul to a lie and cover up?

Please visit the SCEPCOP debunking skeptics site to learn more about logic and critical thinking. I dare you to do an article this site.

http://www.debunkingskeptics.com

Also check out hundreds of proofs for three major proven conspiracies here:

http://www.debunkingskeptics.com/Conspiracies.htm "
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Re: US gov site tries to debunk conspiracy theories! Hilario

Postby SydneyPSIder » 12 Jul 2015, 22:06

Very well put. Puts the pseudoscientists and pop science second rate journalists with all their logical fallacies like appeal to authority to shame.

Scepcop wrote:Apparently, the establishment or US government uses sites like Live Science, Huffington Post and Scientific American to try to debunk all "conspiracy theories" as insane and ridiculous and baseless. Check out these from Live Science which ridicule all "conspiracy theories" and claim that only official government claims are true.

http://www.livescience.com/11375-top-ten-conspiracy-theories.html
http://www.livescience.com/18171-contradicting-conspiracy-theories-mistrust.html
http://www.livescience.com/4625-article-conspiracies-part-conspiracy.html

I wrote a letter to their authors and sent it to them and posted it in their comments section:

"To Wynne Parry:

Why doesn't you be fair and do an article about contradicting government stories or how the government and elite have lied hundreds of times? The reasons is obvious: If she did, then Live Science would not publish it. Duh! You either conform to the party line, or you don't get published. So much for free speech.

Instead of trying to claim that conspiracy believers are delusional, Ms. Parry, you should debate the EVIDENCE. Truth depends on EVIDENCE Mr. Parry. Truth does not come from authority like you assume. You and Live Science seem to advocate that a reasonable person should believe EVERYTHING the government and controlled mainstream media tell us and take it on faith, and only apply skepticism to conspiracy theories. That's illogical. Truth does not come from authority, it comes from evidence and reason. So Live Science is no defender of logic or science.

Moreover, science does NOT claim that conspiracy allegations (not theories) are false, or that the paranormal doesn't exist. Only humanists who are BIASED with an agenda claim that, not science itself. Science is just a tool, it does not hold political opinions as Live Science and Wynne Parry falsely assume.

Finally Ms. Parry, FYI Princess Diana was murdered. The evidence is obvious:

1) The 24 hour security cameras in the tunnel were switched off just before the accident. What a coincidence. Not!
2) The ambulance took more than one hour to get her to the hospital, even though the hospital was only 5 minutes away. This was late at night too, so traffic was not an issue, and even if it was, ambulances have the authority to clear away traffic in front of it as everyone knows. There is no excuse for that. That was definitely deliberate FOUL PLAY. There's no way around it.
3) Princess Diana herself wrote in her diary that she was going to be murdered. That should tell you something.
4) Several MI 5 whistleblowers have said that there was a plot to kill Diana.
5) The driver was not intoxicated. His friends said that he rarely ever even drank.
6) The Royal Family have murdered many people in the past, so why is it impossible for them to murder Diana? Simply because authority=truth and therefore if they deny it, then it must be true? What kind of "science" is that? Shame on you Live Science, for calling yourself "science"!
7) A jury ruled that Diana was murdered by a conspiracy. See the banned documentary "Unlawful Killing" but that ruling was distorted and suppressed by the mainstream media. Gee I wonder why.

Ms. Parry, you KNOW that all the above prove that Diana was murdered. How do you sleep at night knowing that you are LYING? Doesn't it feel bad to sell your soul to a lie and cover up?

Please visit the SCEPCOP debunking skeptics site to learn more about logic and critical thinking. I dare you to do an article this site.

http://www.debunkingskeptics.com

Also check out hundreds of proofs for three major proven conspiracies here:

http://www.debunkingskeptics.com/Conspiracies.htm "
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