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When you reach the top, do secret societies pay you a visit?

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When you reach the top, do secret societies pay you a visit?

Postby Scepcop » 04 Feb 2013, 22:22

I have a question I've been wondering about.

When you reach the top and become rich and famous in any field, whether it's business, politics, media, medicine, banking, entertainment, music or Hollywood, does a representative from a secret society (e.g. Illuminati or Freemasons) pay you a visit?

Does this person have a little talk with you, or take you to a secret room that only those "in the loop" know about, where you will be briefed and given an ultimatum to join them or be thrown back down? Are you told something like this:

"We rule the world, so we must control people in your position at your level. You have two choices. Either you join us and play our game and do as you are told. Or you go back down and lose your status. If you try to fight us, we can easily have you taken out and make it look like a suicide or accident. The police will never investigate. What will it be?"

Is that what happens? Would the Illuminati reveal themselves directly like that, or would they go through a "middleman manager" first to see how compliant and controllable the target person is before revealing themselves fully?

Do they get them when they reach the top, or do they pick someone they want and then bring them to the top in politics, big business or stardom?

Could this be the real reason why many celebrities look unhappy like they are being pulled along, go crazy, resort to drugs, or end up dead under mysterious circumstances?

Are there any whistleblowers who have been at the top that have come out and talked about it? Why don't more of them whistleblow what goes on?

Do those at the top know something that we all don't? I've always wondered about that.

Are all politicians, big CEO's, stars and celebrities "in on it" or just the most influential ones?

Am I indulging in paranoid fantasies with these questions, or is there a real basis to this?

Finally, do secret societies really rule the world, or at least most of it? If so, are they all unified and interconnected, or do they compete with each other too (e.g. Illuminati/Freemasons vs. Vatican/Jesuits)?

Also, why do many college fraternities have secret handshakes and initiation ceremonies? Surely that can't be just for fun right? Are they junior level secret societies to screen candidates for higher level secret societies?

What is the purpose of secret societies anyway? Why does it have to be a secret? Logic says that if something has to be a secret, then it probably involves something either nefarious, dangerous, looks bad, too easily misinterpreted, too complex, too good for the public to know about, or something that the public would be better off not knowing.
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Postby Arouet » 04 Feb 2013, 23:12

What does the evidence suggest about the answer to those questions?
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Postby Scepcop » 08 Feb 2013, 18:17

Arouet wrote:What does the evidence suggest about the answer to those questions?


Depends on the source and who you listen to. But yes, there does seem to be ample evidence that secret societies and fraternal orders control major organizations and positions of power and influence.

What research have you done in this area? None right? lol
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Postby Scepcop » 08 Feb 2013, 18:18

I just saw this movie called Brotherhood of the Bell (1970) starring Glenn Ford and Dean Jagger that was recommended to me on ATS. It is probably the best and most accurate portrayal of secret societies and fraternal orders and how they work in controlling all major organizations. You will love it for sure. It's also very suspenseful and gripping. But you can't help shaking your head about how stupid Glenn Ford's character is. I wonder how they got away with making this film.



Also, have you seen the film "The Parallax"? It's about an Illuminati assassination recruitment operation. There is a scene where the protagonist gets offered a secret position that will utilize his talents. You can see a clip of it in the trailer. Is that what's said to recruits?

Trailer:



Here is a trippy scene in the film where new recruits are shown a series of slides to gauge their emotional reaction. What do you think the purpose of these slides is?

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Postby Scepcop » 08 Feb 2013, 18:29

Check out this trailer for The Skulls (2000), a movie about the Skull and Bones secret society and elite fraternity. Isn't it so accurate?



Here is the initiation ceremony clip. Is it accurate?



Here is a clip showing the good life that members get in the elite fraternity.



The revealing process.



What do you think? How could they let a movie like this be made?
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Postby Arouet » 08 Feb 2013, 19:21

Scepcop wrote:What research have you done in this area? None right? lol


I can see the type of research you've done! :) Hey! I watched The Skulls too when it came out! I'm an expert!
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Postby ProfWag » 09 Feb 2013, 09:49

Scepcop wrote:I have a question I've been wondering about.

When you reach the top and become rich and famous in any field, whether it's business, politics, media, medicine, banking, entertainment, music or Hollywood, does a representative from a secret society (e.g. Illuminati or Freemasons) pay you a visit?

Since there is absolutely zero, none, zip, nadda, and no evidence that the Illuminati is still in existance, then the answer to your "enlightening" question is probably not--at least the illuminati. As for Freemasons, also probably not. They are a dime a dozen and quite overrated in their secrets, but for me, it's not a question that I would lose a second of sleep over.
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Postby Scepcop » 12 Feb 2013, 02:57

This aware freethinker on YouTube named George Jettison makes a lot of good points about why the Illuminati in some form obviously exists.

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Postby Arouet » 13 Feb 2013, 06:42

What points do you think are good?
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