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Characteristics of a Conspiracy Theorist

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Re: Characteristics of a Conspiracy Theorist

Postby NinjaPuppy » 25 Sep 2012, 06:17

Love it! However, don't let SCEPCOP see it. ;)
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Re: Characteristics of a Conspiracy Theorist

Postby ProfWag » 26 Sep 2012, 03:03

SydneyPSIder wrote:Funnily enough it was taught in Russian and Cuban schools from Day 1 of the landing that it was a fake -- true story.

Guess again Sydney. Show me a reference for the Russian school reference. Oh you can't? Didn't think so.
I will partially agree that Cubans are taught about the conspiracy theory, but not necessarily that it was absolutely faked. However, it would come as no surprise to me since Cuba hates our guts since that communist country would spread false, irrelevant information about their bitter enemy. No relevance to whether or not we went to the moon.
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Re: Characteristics of a Conspiracy Theorist

Postby NinjaPuppy » 26 Sep 2012, 04:13

ProfWag wrote:However, it would come as no surprise to me since Cuba hates our guts since that communist country would spread false, irrelevant information about their bitter enemy.

When you say that "Cuba hates our guts", can you clarify? Are you talking about Fidel Castro, their entire government or the people or all of the above? I mean we've got more than a few boat loads of Cubans living in this country who risked their lives to get here. Yes, I realize that many were 'sent' here to alleviate overcrowding or having to pay to keep some in prison. It seems it's our government who forbids US citizens to go or trade with Cuba.

Since Arouet lives in another country, I think we should send him to do some research.
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Re: Characteristics of a Conspiracy Theorist

Postby Arouet » 26 Sep 2012, 05:14

You send the tickets and I'll do it (4* resort or higher and daily stipend included of course)
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Re: Characteristics of a Conspiracy Theorist

Postby NinjaPuppy » 26 Sep 2012, 08:02

Arouet wrote:You send the tickets and I'll do it (4* resort or higher and daily stipend included of course)

Hey, you gotta put your skeptic where your mouth is. I'm already paying for my own research related trip this October. Now it's your turn. Don't forget the sunblock.
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Re: Characteristics of a Conspiracy Theorist

Postby Arouet » 26 Sep 2012, 11:30

My vacation fund is now going to my ex-wife- maybe in a decade or two!
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Re: Characteristics of a Conspiracy Theorist

Postby SydneyPSIder » 26 Sep 2012, 18:50

ProfWag wrote:
SydneyPSIder wrote:Funnily enough it was taught in Cuban schools from Day 1 of the landing that it was a fake -- true story.

I will partially agree that Cubans are taught about the conspiracy theory, but not necessarily that it was absolutely faked. However, it would come as no surprise to me since Cuba hates our guts since that communist country would spread false, irrelevant information about their bitter enemy. No relevance to whether or not we went to the moon.

I dunno, I just read this stuff here and there:

The Soviets would have called us on it if we'd faked the moon landing.
The Space Race was a serious competition between the United States and the Soviet Union. The USSR had managed to get the first satellite in space (Sputnik), the first living creature in space (Laika the dog) the first man in orbit, the first woman, the first civilian, the first dual-piloted flights, the first multi-person spacecraft, the first "shirt-sleeve" space flight (without spacesuits), and the first space walk. All these were accomplished by the mid-1960's.

In 1961, President Kennedy had challenged the US to the goal of putting a man on the moon "before this decade is out." We made it -- with just about six months to spare.

Would the USSR have called us on it? Well, maybe, maybe not. They did claim that we faked it, actually, but we could just pass that off as "Soviet propaganda." Could they prove it? They didn't have the capability to track deep space travel until about 1972. Coincidentally (?) that's about the same time we stopped sending men to the moon.

http://voices.yahoo.com/apollo-11s-alle ... 36301.html


Apart from all the Soviet firsts, I think they had the first unmanned moon landers and moon orbits as well... not bad for a pre-industrial society at the beginning of the 20th century that used socialism to progress...

Cuban schools have taught it was a fake since 1969. But I've retracted the Russian claim, as I don't want to give googlers false hope... Took too much LSD in the 60s -- and I was only 3!

Interestingly, 25% of UK engineers surveyed believe the missions were faked -- engineers! Clearly, their training suggest some that Prof "CIA" Wag's does not:

Actually, not all Americans believe that the moon landing actually happened, or that it happened in exactly the way we've been told. A Gallup poll taken in 2001 showed that 5% percent of Americans believe that the moon landing was faked. 89% believe it was real. The other 6% just don't know.

The figures are higher in other parts of the world. In Cuba, for example, the theory that the moon landings are faked is actively taught in the schools, both in Cuba and in other parts of the world where Cuban teachers are sent. A 2000 poll in Russia showed that 28% of those surveyed didn't believe that we had landed on the moon. That doesn't surprise me too much, I must admit. After all, the Soviet Union was our rival during the Space Race, and they couldn't do what we did. What does surprise me, however, is that a 2009 poll taken by the magazine Engineering and Technology in the United Kingdom showed that 25% of those surveyed didn't believe we had done it. Really? The UK? Engineers???
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Re: Characteristics of a Conspiracy Theorist

Postby SydneyPSIder » 26 Sep 2012, 18:58

Arouet wrote:You send the tickets and I'll do it (4* resort or higher and daily stipend included of course)

I've got friends in Australia that have been, and I don't think there's any 4* hotels standing...

They got inordinately hassled at US airports by officials when their travel plans became apparent, which surprised them.

There's some 'friends of Cuba' societies over here. Michael Moore seemed to think they had a better 'universal health care' health system than the US in 'Sicko' -- not bad given they've been 'encircled' and boycotted for decades. They also send their doctors overseas to help out in other countries.
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