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Do you believe that they really killed Bin Laden?

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Re: Do you believe that Bin Laden is dead?

Postby SydneyPSIder » 28 Jan 2013, 16:09

This backs up the police state proposition:

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Re: Do you believe that they really killed Bin Laden?

Postby Misha » 28 Jan 2013, 22:44

Please see my post at "What's on the table."
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Re: Do you believe that they really killed Bin Laden?

Postby SydneyPSIder » 15 Feb 2013, 13:25

Reading this article about 'The Shooter' (not Bissonnette) who remains anonymous:

http://www.esquire.com/features/man-who ... den-0313-4

Makes me wonder whether in fact OBL had gone into hiding since 2001, a few fake vids were made by the CIA to cover his absence, then they made a concerted effort to actually find him under BHO. So maybe the guy was actually still alive and trying to live in obscurity and they took the opportunity to ace him at the right point in the election cycle.
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Re: Do you believe that they really killed Bin Laden?

Postby Misha » 16 Feb 2013, 05:43

Here is David Ray Griffin discussing his book and information on "Osama Bin Laden, Dead or Alive."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9f276P4iu4

Some of Griffin's points that Bin Laden was dead no later than December 13/14 of 2001:

1) Dale Watson of FBI counter-terrorism division believed Bin Laden dead before Dec. 13/14 of 2001.
2) Oliver North - Interviewed by Phillip Sheehan of NY Times that Osama was dead before Dec. 13/14 of 2001.
3) Hamid Karzai - President of Afghanistan - Same time frame - OBL dead.
4) Israeli Intelligence - OBL dead. Same time frame.
5) Bush and aide - Likely dead. Same time frame.
6) Donald Rumsfeld - OBL hasn't been seen since 2001.
7) Ken Keith - Head of Afghanistan command (?) - OBL dead. Same time frame.
8) Robert Baer - CIA, interviewed by "Fresh Air" that OBL was dead. Same time frame. Baer also took a CIA poll of active personnel regarding when OBL died. Not a single one said he was alive. The poll results came out around 2009.

Keep in mind that the FBI had no outstanding indictments for OBL concerning 9/11. Also, the CIA closed down their "Alec Station" around 2004 (If memory serves as being correct) which was dedicated to finding OBL. Some of these points might have been mentioned by others and myself in previous posts.

Also, far more information on the OBL tapes and literature can be found in Griffin's book. Yes, I have read it.
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Re: Do you believe that they really killed Bin Laden?

Postby SydneyPSIder » 16 Feb 2013, 10:56

Misha wrote:Here is David Ray Griffin discussing his book and information on "Osama Bin Laden, Dead or Alive."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9f276P4iu4

Some of Griffin's points that Bin Laden was dead no later than December 13/14 of 2001:

1) Dale Watson of FBI counter-terrorism division believed Bin Laden dead before Dec. 13/14 of 2001.
2) Oliver North - Interviewed by Phillip Sheehan of NY Times that Osama was dead before Dec. 13/14 of 2001.
3) Hamid Karzai - President of Afghanistan - Same time frame - OBL dead.
4) Israeli Intelligence - OBL dead. Same time frame.
5) Bush and aide - Likely dead. Same time frame.
6) Donald Rumsfeld - OBL hasn't been seen since 2001.
7) Ken Keith - Head of Afghanistan command (?) - OBL dead. Same time frame.
8) Robert Baer - CIA, interviewed by "Fresh Air" that OBL was dead. Same time frame. Baer also took a CIA poll of active personnel regarding when OBL died. Not a single one said he was alive. The poll results came out around 2009.

Keep in mind that the FBI had no outstanding indictments for OBL concerning 9/11. Also, the CIA closed down their "Alec Station" around 2004 (If memory serves as being correct) which was dedicated to finding OBL. Some of these points might have been mentioned by others and myself in previous posts.

Also, far more information on the OBL tapes and literature can be found in Griffin's book. Yes, I have read it.

hmm, so Hillary and BHO were faking their enthusiasm in the situation room? or did they set someone up to be the patsy in that particular building over the border in n. pakistan -- a tall guy with a beard told to just hang around? what gives? what about all the wives and kids supposedly running around? etc. you would thnk 'the shooter' would have been very well looked after,in fact, not treated as per the esquire article claims. and the supposed CIA 'analyst' was for some reason '100% sure' he would be on the 3rd floor -- hmm... who's fooling whom here?
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Re: Do you believe that they really killed Bin Laden?

Postby Misha » 16 Feb 2013, 15:33

I got to tell you, Sydney. I don't think BHO and Hillary knew the shot (no pun intended). I sense by their body demeanor that this was uncharted territory for this Special Op. One, BHO's body posture and position within the situation room illustrates, at least with this photo, an awkwardness which tells me this was a new experience. More importantly, Hillary is a political animal all the way. Here's a woman that wants to be president so bad that I'm sure great care is taken on her part to act in accordance as someone who can handle the future office. Yet, here she is with her hand over her mouth in complete horror of what she is seeing. It is very visceral.

Now this does not mean this is OBL being terminated. It could mean someone else is being terminated. We will never know for sure. Where's the body? And, how would OBL or Hillary know for sure this was OBL?
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Re: Do you believe that they really killed Bin Laden?

Postby Misha » 16 Feb 2013, 16:10

Correction. Alec station was closed in and around 2006, not 2004.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/04/washi ... .html?_r=0
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Re: Do you believe that they really killed Bin Laden?

Postby SydneyPSIder » 16 Feb 2013, 21:08

Spoke to my psychic friend about aspects of this tonite. She was getting a bead on BHO and what he actually knows and how he is handling it. Interesting stuff, might publish it on the forum or via PM. I still have another session to go tho.
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Re: Do you believe that they really killed Bin Laden?

Postby Misha » 17 Feb 2013, 09:00

I'm currently reading Jason Burke's book "Al Qaeda." Far and away better than Michael Scheuer's book "Through Our Enemies Eyes." I highly recommend you guys read Burke's book. An excellent breakdown on Osama, Islam, Salafism, Wahhabism, and the evolution of fanatical sects. Is there an "E-book" on Burke's book?
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Re: Do you believe that they really killed Bin Laden?

Postby SydneyPSIder » 18 Jun 2013, 10:37

An 'evidence compilation' site:

http://welfarestate.com/binladen/funeral/

News of Bin Laden’s Death and Funeral

December 26, 2001 - Islamabad - A prominent official in the Afghan Taleban movement announced yesterday the death of Osama bin Laden, the chief of al-Qa’da organization, stating that bin Laden suffered serious complications in the lungs and died a natural and quiet death. The official, who asked to remain anonymous, stated to The Observer of Pakistan that he had himself attended the funeral of bin Laden and saw his face prior to burial in Tora Bora 10 days ago. He mentioned that 30 of al-Qa’da fighters attended the burial as well as members of his family and some friends from the Taleban. In the farewell ceremony to his final rest guns were fired in the air. The official stated that it is difficult to pinpoint the burial location of bin Laden because according to the Wahhabi tradition no mark is left by the grave. He stressed that it is unlikely that the American forces would ever uncover any traces of bin Laden.
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Re: Do you believe that they really killed Bin Laden?

Postby Scepcop » 16 Jun 2015, 00:15

Check this out. Fox News reported Bin Laden dead in 2001.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/2001/12/26/report-bin-laden-already-dead.html

I wonder why that story is still up on its site. lol. Someone should save a copy of it.

What was the US military's official explanation for why they didn't capture him alive?
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