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Do you believe that they really killed Bin Laden?

Postby ProfWag » 04 May 2011, 03:07

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What are your thoughts on the Bin Laden death? Do you believe he was killed? If so, do you believe we did it just because it would help cover up and complete the US's cover-up of the "inside job?" Just curious as I would love to hear about this recent news event from the eyes of a "Truther."
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Re: Scepcop and Bin Laden

Postby Craig Browning » 05 May 2011, 00:49

No one's done a YouTube video on it yet, too soon for the conspiracy brain-trust to formulate a unifying theme. . . give it at least 3-5 weeks, then we will find out what "really" happened. . . as per my previous post on this, I've heard that Osoma shaved his beard, took on the last name of Hernandez and is working on the Bush farm in Texas.
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Re: Scepcop and Bin Laden

Postby Arouet » 05 May 2011, 02:52

At first I was pretty suspicious too, since this seems to have been done in a manner to generate maximum suspicion! but I just listened to the press conference by Obama's press secretary and he made a good point: if Bin Ladin is really alive you could bet that a new video would be released pretty soon.
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Re: Scepcop and Bin Laden

Postby really? » 05 May 2011, 03:59

Even though he's dead like Elvis you can bet with certainty that rumors of him being sighted like Elvis will soon rise from the conspiracy loonytoons residing on the interwebs.
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Re: Scepcop and Bin Laden

Postby ProfWag » 05 May 2011, 04:04

Arouet wrote:At first I was pretty suspicious too, since this seems to have been done in a manner to generate maximum suspicion! but I just listened to the press conference by Obama's press secretary and he made a good point: if Bin Ladin is really alive you could bet that a new video would be released pretty soon.

That is a great point, but there will always be CTers who will argue for the sake of arguing no matter what point is brought up. Even if photos were released, there would be those who claimed they were faked. I would like to see them, myself, but only because I'm curious and I think gorey pictures of death are interesting.
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Re: Scepcop and Bin Laden

Postby Scepcop » 05 May 2011, 12:11

I haven't followed the news. But I heard guys on my other forum say they have no body or DNA evidence.

Plus he was a CIA operative, so how can you believe anything?

ProfWag, do you even know what "Al Qaeda" means in Arabic?

Discussion about it on my other forum:

http://www.happierabroad.com/forum/view ... hp?t=10238
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Re: Scepcop and Bin Laden

Postby ProfWag » 05 May 2011, 20:58

Scepcop wrote:ProfWag, do you even know what "Al Qaeda" means in Arabic?

Discussion about it on my other forum:

http://www.happierabroad.com/forum/view ... hp?t=10238

I do know what it means. Do you? (Remember, I have spent time there literally fighting the bastards and have been involved in classified briefings about the organization.)
So I went to the discussion link you provided, but didn't see anything about Al Qaeda. I did see something about some guy's penis being a conspiracy, but that was about it as far as worthy of reading. What were you referring to that is so important that you would want to refer me to a different forum than this one? Can we not have a discussion about it here?
One thing I would like to know is if you believe that 9/11 was an inside government job, then why does anyone from you to Alex Jones give a crap if they show photos or have DNA anyway? If one doesn't believe he's the mastermind behind 9/11, then why all the negative talk about the government not showing his picture or DNA test results?
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Re: Scepcop and Bin Laden

Postby Arouet » 06 May 2011, 00:55

ProfWag wrote:That is a great point, but there will always be CTers who will argue for the sake of arguing no matter what point is brought up. Even if photos were released, there would be those who claimed they were faked. I would like to see them, myself, but only because I'm curious and I think gorey pictures of death are interesting.


Thing is, the Obama administration seemed to have done this in a manner to ensure the most suspicion possible. Hopefully they have some stuff they're going to disclose. Otherwise it almost looks like they want there to be suspcion. It's hard to imagine a way they could have carried this off in a more suspicious way!
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Re: Scepcop and Bin Laden

Postby Craig Browning » 06 May 2011, 01:03

really? wrote:Even though he's dead like Elvis you can bet with certainty that rumors of him being sighted like Elvis will soon rise from the conspiracy loonytoons residing on the interwebs.


I said that the morning after the announcement. . .he's been spotted all over the place, at least three times driving a cab in New York city and another rumor has him working as an Hispanic gardener for Donald Trump.
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Re: Scepcop and Bin Laden

Postby ProfWag » 06 May 2011, 20:48

Craig Browning wrote:
really? wrote:Even though he's dead like Elvis you can bet with certainty that rumors of him being sighted like Elvis will soon rise from the conspiracy loonytoons residing on the interwebs.


I said that the morning after the announcement. . .he's been spotted all over the place, at least three times driving a cab in New York city and another rumor has him working as an Hispanic gardener for Donald Trump.

From CNN:
BREAKING NEWS: Al Qaeda confirms death of Osama bin Laden, according to SITE Intelligence Group, which monitors militant messages.
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Re: Scepcop and Bin Laden

Postby really? » 07 May 2011, 06:10

ProfWag wrote:
Craig Browning wrote:
really? wrote:Even though he's dead like Elvis you can bet with certainty that rumors of him being sighted like Elvis will soon rise from the conspiracy loonytoons residing on the interwebs.


I said that the morning after the announcement. . .he's been spotted all over the place, at least three times driving a cab in New York city and another rumor has him working as an Hispanic gardener for Donald Trump.

From CNN:
BREAKING NEWS: Al Qaeda confirms death of Osama bin Laden, according to SITE Intelligence Group, which monitors militant messages.


You know that someone will turn around and say this is just a smoke screen.
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Re: Scepcop and Bin Laden

Postby Scepcop » 21 Jun 2011, 00:29

According to these researchers below, it was announced in the Arab world in 2001 that Osama Bin Laden died back then, so in the Middle East it is common knowledge that Bin Laden died in 2001. Only the Western media kept the illusion of him being still alive in order to promote its agenda. Do we feel stupid or what?

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Re: Scepcop and Bin Laden

Postby Craig Browning » 21 Jun 2011, 21:34

Do bear in mind that even Hitler was smart enough to have two body doubles. . . it's very common practice even in show biz so as to escape all the poveratsy (sp)

From what we actually KNOW, the 2001 claim was a very amateur attempt to spread misinformation so as to get the west to stop looking for the man. . . it didn't work. From what I understand he's been in our sites more than a couple of times but the green light was never given for whatever reason. . . :idea: Oh yea! Bush was still in office and his daddy was friends with Osama's daddy, or some such. . . . :twisted:

Don't you just love Government Intelligence ?
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Re: Scepcop and Bin Laden

Postby ProfWag » 24 Jun 2011, 18:32

Scepcop wrote:According to these researchers below, it was announced in the Arab world in 2001 that Osama Bin Laden died back then, so in the Middle East it is common knowledge that Bin Laden died in 2001. Only the Western media kept the illusion of him being still alive in order to promote its agenda. Do we feel stupid or what?


Uhhhhhh, no. I don't feel stupid as I'm not the one who used that as a source for any solid information. Al Qaeda themselves admit he died in a raid a month or so ago. Perhaps you should re-checkk your source.
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Re: Scepcop and Bin Laden

Postby Craig Browning » 24 Jun 2011, 22:40

The other "issue" behind that 2001 death claim thing is that it would have hurt Al Queda at the on-set of hostilities which we know ain't the case; the biggest reason as to why had nothing to do with the Western Media or NATO or the Western Alliance, etc. It was Al Queda's own Press Releases and video statements by Bin Laden over the past decade and I do believe there was a couple of suspected hospital visits our intelligence groups found out about after the fact. So there's just too much in way of documentation from "their" side of things for that National Enquirer (a.k.a. Youtube) to hold any weight.

As to the way we got rid of his body. . . I believe the whole dumping his body into the great abyss is a symbolic statement tied to Al Queda's way of looking at things. I can't recall precisely but I believe there is a metaphoric connection around this that stems from ancient military attitudes and how a conqueror or paladin, would cast the "demon" (evil source, bad guy, etc. ) into the deepest regions of the sea so that it could never return. It's allegory. . . one I wish I could find confirmation of but my mind just isn't able to refine a search phrase well enough. :|
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