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Re: JFK Assassination Conspiracy

Postby Scepcop » 09 Jul 2012, 23:20

Check out Sirhan Sirhan's lawyer Larry Teeter presenting overwhelming evidence of a conspiracy in the RFK assassination beyond all doubt. He describes how the LAPD deliberately covered up the RFK assassination. Why would the LAPD do that? How do you get an entire police department to cover up a murder of someone so likable as RFK? It's very informative and he also explains how and why governments use lone nut assassins to take out people that threaten their corrupt interests.

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Re: JFK Assassination Conspiracy

Postby ProfWag » 10 Jul 2012, 04:05

Winston, is it your belief that Oliver Stone's film, JFK, is historical fact?
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Re: JFK Assassination Conspiracy

Postby Scepcop » 11 Jul 2012, 23:22

ProfWag wrote:Winston, is it your belief that Oliver Stone's film, JFK, is historical fact?


Yes, most of it is accurate. It is based on many years of painstaking research by many objective truth seeking investigators.

Is it your belief that the Warren Commission's verdict of LHO acting alone is the only real truth? lol If so, you are hopelessly lost and beyond help. Is it your belief that the Warren Commission was objective and truth seeking? lol If so, I have water under a bridge to sell you. lol

Did you know that the Warren Commission included suspects such as Allen Dulles, the evil CIA director that Kennedy had fired for misleading him about the Bay of Pigs? If asking the fox to watch the hen house isn't a botched investigation, then I don't know what is. You don't have a suspect become part of an investigation. Sheesh.

Just watch the presentation above by Larry Teeter. It will teach you a lot, if you are rational and objective that is.
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Re: JFK Assassination Conspiracy

Postby Scepcop » 12 Jul 2012, 04:59

Btw, you can get the director's cut of Oliver Stone's JFK on Amazon.com starting at $2 and up for used copies. It's a historical masterpiece - well researched, documented, eloquent, powerful and moving. It's a film you will never forget. If any of you are interested in history, truth, conspiracies, and how things really work behind the scenes in Washington, I strongly recommend you get a copy. I just saw it and was totally blown away. It will leave you in tears and anger, but you will glad that someone exposed the truth at least. Used copies on Amazon start at $2 and up.

http://www.amazon.com/JFK-Special-Editi ... 606&sr=8-3

You can also get the Ultimate Collector's Edition for $11 at:

http://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Collecto ... 606&sr=8-4

It includes the following:

Two-disc special edition DVD, including:
-Director's cut of the movie
-Commentary by director/co-writer Oliver Stone
-Documentary: Beyond JFK: The Question of Conspiracy
-Deleted/extended scenes with optional commentary by Stone
-Multimedia essays
-Production notes
-Theatrical trailer
-DVD-ROM: essays and articles on the JFK assassination and the films of Oliver Stone
44-page book of rare behind-the-scenes production photos
Set of six character photo cards with the stars and bios of the real people they portray
Five reproduction letters written by or to John F. Kennedy plus his historic inauguration address
Bonus DVD: "The Kennedys: America's Emerald Kings" (2008)

You can also read nearly 400 raving reviews and praises of the film at either of the links above.

"Kings are killed, Mr. Garrison, politics is power..." - Mr. X to Jim Garrison in JFK.
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Re: JFK Assassination Conspiracy

Postby ProfWag » 13 Jul 2012, 00:08

Winston, for you to think that JFK is “mostly accurate” is a testament to your lack of independent and unbiased research. JFK is not historically factual. There are many, many inaccuracies, incomplete story lines, and other mis-guidings throughout the film. The Director was unhappy about the “myths” he speculates came out from the Warren Commission Report and he set out to provide “counter myths.”

In his own words, Oliver Stone says the following: “What I've tried to do with this movie is to open a stall in that marketplace of ideas and offer a version of what might have happened as against the competing versions of what we know did not happen and some other possible versions as well.” http://www.prouty.org/stone/stone_x.htm

For the record, I do not believe the Warren Commission was without errors. I also believe that “JFK” was a wonderful film and one of the best films of the 1990’s. The Director set out to make people think about alternate versions of historical facts and he did a brilliant job of that. The difference between you and I, Winston, is that I don’t take the movie as historical fact. As such, your critique in Amazon of Posner’s book is quite comical as you use JFK as a basis for Posner’s inaccuracies while you assert that the movie was accurate when, in reality, it is not and you show no attempt in your critique to pinpoint the movies facts and “not-so-factuals.”

Finally, thank you for Mr. Teeter's information, however, I am quite able to do my own research across the spectrum of theories and facts and can draw my own conclusion based on reliable information. I don't need to watch anyone do that for me.
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Re: JFK Assassination Conspiracy

Postby Scepcop » 15 Jul 2012, 12:06

I'm sorry ProfWag, but the best JFK assassination researchers, such as Robert Groden, Gary Mack, Jim Marrs, and others, say the film is MOSTLY ACCURATE. They've researched this topic for decades and are in a better position to know what's accurate and what isn't than you are.

Even if only 10 percent of the film was accurate, the conspiracy would still be proven.

The reason you think it's inaccurate is due to a disinfo campaign put out by the mainstream media. Oliver Stone was probably forced to say that in order that he be allowed to make more movies.

All you do is deny and ridicule. This conspiracy was proven long ago in the 60's to a 100 percent certainty, many times over. The entire American public knows that the government lied and covered up this conspiracy. That's why they lost faith and trust in the government after that. It was a major turning point for good reason.

After watching some disturbing but revealing films about the JFK assassination, such as:

- Evidence of Revision (10 hour documentary on YouTube)
- The Men Who Killed Kennedy (9 episode History Channel series, available on YouTube)
- Oliver Stone's JFK (1991)

It is very clear and obvious that during the cover up of the JFK assassination, various departments were involved, FBI, CIA, police department, military, secret service, etc. as well as the major media networks. How can that be? How can so many departments and agencies and major media all collaborate in a cover up? That's pretty disturbing when you think about it. Yet it definitely seems to be true.

How can the mainstream media constantly deny the existence of a conspiracy in the JFK assassination, and continually preach the lone nut fictional theory, when all evidence points to a conspiracy, which has been conclusively proven to a 100 percent certainty? Does the major media know that they are involved in fraud and cover up?

Now the question is, doesn't this indicate that every organization and department in America is infiltrated at the top by some kind of control network? If so, does this prove the existence of some Illuminati-like group that is in control of everything, at least in the Western world? If so, does this mean that the Illuminati, or some shadow organization like it, exists after all and is pulling the strings of seemingly separate organizations?

What do you think?
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Re: JFK Assassination Conspiracy

Postby Scepcop » 15 Jul 2012, 12:45

This is supposed to be the best documentary series on the JFK assassination. It's called "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" and consists of 9 episodes shown on the History Channel. It is very informative and features tons of witnesses, experts, whistleblowers, scientific and forensic evidence, etc. all proving a massive conspiracy and cover up in the assassination of JFK. There are several versions of it on YouTube. Here is one of them:

Episode 1 of 9:



Note: If the above video should be taken down, just go to YouTube and search for "The Men Who Killed Kennedy". There are several versions of it.

Also, this older documentary by Robert Groden, one of the top JFK assassination researchers and experts in the world, is amazingly effective and logical. Point by point, in meticulous detail, it refutes the single bullet theory of the Warren Commission, showing it to be a fiction that even "Mother Goose would reject" as it says. It also shows interview clips from all the doctors and nurses that examined Kennedy's body who all unanimously said that there was a massive EXIT wound at the back of his head, proving conclusively that the official autopsy photos and x-rays are forged as part of the cover up. And it presents photographic evidence of a possible second gunman on the grassy knoll. An amazingly effective and 100 percent logical film. No rational person can see this film and still believe in the lone nut fiction.

Part 1:

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Re: JFK Assassination Conspiracy

Postby Scepcop » 16 Jul 2012, 19:11

Ok here's something I don't understand.

As much as I like the Kennedy's, they honestly didn't seem too bright. Consider the following:

JFK made enemies with many powerful people, J Edgar Hoover, the CIA, the military industrial complex, the mafia, the oil industry, LBJ (who may have gone to jail for his crimes had he not become president), Castro, and everyone who blamed him for the Bay of Pigs failure.

With the most powerful enemies in the world, why would JFK be riding around in an open limosine in public with no secret service at his side, like a sitting duck? I mean, come on now. That's totally reckless and unclever. It's like the guy didn't have common sense. Even ruthless dictatos never ride out in open cars like a sitting duck. Even Sadam Hussein and Joseph Stalin would not expose themselves like that.

At least JFK could have asked for a top to cover the limo. Didn't he know about the Lincoln assassination, where some actor just walked up to him and shot him, just like that? Where was Lincoln's security guards? That was so lame.

Furthermore, didn't JFK realize that something was wrong on the day of his assassination, when his secret service was not running alongside his car and were withdrawn for no reason? They were totally useless that day. Anyone could shoot him and the agents sitting in the car behind him could not protect him. He was a sitting duck. Why didn't he immediately get suspicious?

He did seem very naive though, to think that he could go against the CIA, Federal Reserve and military industrial complex and get away with it. Or maybe he just didn't think about it. Or maybe he didn't care if he got killed?

Also, why would his brother Bobby try to run for President in 1968 so that he could stop the war in Vietnam, and not realize that he would be assassinated too? He could have deduced that from basic logic. Why didn't he take any steps to protect himself or have some security? Did he lack any survival instinct?

Did RFK think that Oswald acted alone, and therefore with him out of the way, no one would assassinate him? Surely RFK didn't buy the lone nut theory deep down did he? Was he really that naive and reckless? As much as I like him, it seems like he just walked into an obvious death trap. Was he really that dumb?

Finally, with so many Kennedy's coming to such a tragic end (even before JFK), and with the myth of the "Kennedy curse", why would JFK Jr. go flying around in a small plane with little training and skill? I'm sure he was aware of his family history and that his uncle and aunt both died in separate plane crashes. Whether there was a curse or not, or just a lot of powerful people wanting to kill them off, either way, wouldn't he be more cautious than to take such reckless risks as flying a small plane? It seems strange.

There was no reason for JFK Jr. to take such a reckless risk of flying a small plane. He was no expert pilot. Why didn't he just take a commercial flight? Or hire a private jet with a professional pilot? That would have been the safest way. He should have known that in a small plane, anyone who wanted to kill him could do it easily by sabotaging his plane or shooting it down. (It was never clear exactly how his plane went down or why)

He did seem like a naive simpleton, not clever, cunning or calculating. Were all the Kennedy's like that? Why did they take such reckless risks and expose themselves and never think about guarding against the worst, which kept happening to them? Did they have no survival instinct? Did they not understand logic? Why didn't they just hire people to protect them?

It's like they always walked around without ever looking behind their back or looking out for danger. Anyone notice that? What was wrong with them? Did they lack intelligence, wits, or cleverness? Were they simpletons who only had looks and charisma, but not smarts? Why would they walk around with no protection, keep getting killed and never learning from it?

I don't know. But the blunders they made do seem bizarre. They seem almost as senseless as the actions that characters in B horror movies make, which defy common sense, basic logic and survival instinct. Can anyone explain this? Were they trying to get themselves killed? It seemed like it, as if they were following some kind of script.

I don't know. Maybe people in the 60's were too trusting and weren't as jaded and paranoid as we are now, so they didn't think about those kind of things? From the voices of people in the 60's that are on video, they sure sound a bit naive and incapable of deeper thought.

What do you think?

Another question that I don't get:

Jack Ruby, Oswald's assassin, was in jail for about 3 years. Why didn't he reveal more about the plot during all that time? It was obvious that his co-conspirators betrayed him and left him in jail, so why wouldn't he expose them all in revenge? He had nothing to lose at that point right?

Also, why didn't anyone probe him for more info and details? In three years, all they got out of him was a 30 second cryptic spiel about "no one will ever know the truth about my motives"? WTF? That was such a wasted opportunity to find out what the truth was. Why didn't anyone try to seize that golden opportunity during those three years? That doesn't make sense. You'd think someone would, wouldn't you? That's a long time let a golden opportunity go to waste. How could such a blunder last for three years?

Come to think of it, if Oswald had lived, gone to trial and then to jail, might the same thing have happened? Maybe he would have just sat in jail, revealing nothing until he died, just like Ruby? The other alleged lone nut assassins didn't reveal much while they were in jail, so why would he?
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Re: JFK Assassination Conspiracy

Postby Scepcop » 16 Jul 2012, 19:14

The driver of JFK's limo, William Greer, appears to be involved. Why did he slow down after the first shot was fired? You'd think he would have speeded up and tried to get away wouldn't you? Instead, he slowed to 10 mph and waited until the fatal head shot before taking off. Isn't that way too suspicious and convenient? If he wasn't trying to get JFK killed, then what was he trying to do?

See episode 7 of "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" on YouTube. It implicates the Secret Service.



Also see episode 9, where LBJ is implicated. In fact, his mistress and one of his attorneys say they have evidence that he was in on the assassination plot. Plus he had a criminal history where he murdered many people including his own sister. It's a very damning and shocking episode. Here it is.



Polls show that over 90 percent of Americans do believe it was a conspiracy. The evidence all points to one, and plus the deliberate overt cover up attempt by the government is clear and unambiguous to all. Even a child can see that there was a big coverup.

How do TPTB get the media and police department in on it though? Doesn't anyone have morals?

That's pretty scary. It means they can take out any one of us, make it look like a suicide, and the police and media won't look into it if they are ordered to stand down.

How did they get the police to help in the cover up and framing of Oswald? How did they get the secret service to stand down? How did they get the driver, William Greer, to agree to slow the limo down to 10 mph until the fatal shot to JFK's head? How did they know that they would all cooperate? It can't just be that they were paid can it?

How many people would agree to a conspiracy to murder someone? I don't know anyone that would. Do you?
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Re: JFK Assassination Conspiracy

Postby ProfWag » 17 Jul 2012, 02:25

Scepcop wrote:I'm sorry ProfWag, but the best JFK assassination researchers, such as Robert Groden, Gary Mack, Jim Marrs, and others, say the film is MOSTLY ACCURATE. They've researched this topic for decades and are in a better position to know what's accurate and what isn't than you are.

Even if only 10 percent of the film was accurate, the conspiracy would still be proven.

The reason you think it's inaccurate is due to a disinfo campaign put out by the mainstream media. Oliver Stone was probably forced to say that in order that he be allowed to make more movies.

Oh good lord Winston. Wherever did you get that 10% thing? Pulled it out your ass I would bet. if Oliver Stone said that about his film, then that's what his feelings are. If he was forced to say that to make more movies, they would have stopped him from making the film to begin with. I really don't know why you won't face the solid evidence that's present to you and instead, resort to History Channel, Hollywood, and youtube videos? Why don't you look for actual evidence rather than the word of people who are conspiracy theorists to begin with? You're not being fair to yourself when you do that.
I'll emphasize again, do your own reputable homework Scepcop.
Additionally, most of the film could have been declared accurate and it still wouldn't prove that Oswald didn't act alone that day. It would prove that others wanted to kill him (which there were), but it still wouldn't prove that he was not the only one doing the shooting. That film was speculation. Even the part about the head snapping back. No scientific or forensic data was presented in the film to back up Kevin Costner's story. To prove a conspiracy, you would have to prove that there were at least two gunmen. Sorry, but that didn't happen in the film, nor did it happen in real life with the Louisiana vs Clay Shaw trial. Speaking of that, why don't you read that trial transcipt. It's what really happened and can be found at http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/g ... _0001a.htm
P.S. Wasn't Groden that guy who testified that OJ Simpson's shoes were a forgery when there turned out to be, like, a dozen or so other pictures that day that proved he didn't know what he was talking about?
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Re: JFK Assassination Conspiracy

Postby Scepcop » 17 Jul 2012, 06:51

ProfWag wrote:
Scepcop wrote:I'm sorry ProfWag, but the best JFK assassination researchers, such as Robert Groden, Gary Mack, Jim Marrs, and others, say the film is MOSTLY ACCURATE. They've researched this topic for decades and are in a better position to know what's accurate and what isn't than you are.

Even if only 10 percent of the film was accurate, the conspiracy would still be proven.

The reason you think it's inaccurate is due to a disinfo campaign put out by the mainstream media. Oliver Stone was probably forced to say that in order that he be allowed to make more movies.

Oh good lord Winston. Wherever did you get that 10% thing? Pulled it out your ass I would bet. if Oliver Stone said that about his film, then that's what his feelings are. If he was forced to say that to make more movies, they would have stopped him from making the film to begin with. I really don't know why you won't face the solid evidence that's present to you and instead, resort to History Channel, Hollywood, and youtube videos? Why don't you look for actual evidence rather than the word of people who are conspiracy theorists to begin with? You're not being fair to yourself when you do that.
I'll emphasize again, do your own reputable homework Scepcop.
Additionally, most of the film could have been declared accurate and it still wouldn't prove that Oswald didn't act alone that day. It would prove that others wanted to kill him (which there were), but it still wouldn't prove that he was not the only one doing the shooting. That film was speculation. Even the part about the head snapping back. No scientific or forensic data was presented in the film to back up Kevin Costner's story. To prove a conspiracy, you would have to prove that there were at least two gunmen. Sorry, but that didn't happen in the film, nor did it happen in real life with the Louisiana vs Clay Shaw trial. Speaking of that, why don't you read that trial transcipt. It's what really happened and can be found at http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/g ... _0001a.htm
P.S. Wasn't Groden that guy who testified that OJ Simpson's shoes were a forgery when there turned out to be, like, a dozen or so other pictures that day that proved he didn't know what he was talking about?


Why are you spreading dishonest lies that YOU yourself know aren't true? EVERYONE knows that there was a conspiracy. Even children and animals know it. It's the most obvious thing in the world. Even you know it. It has been proven to a 100 percent certainty many times over. It was proven in the 60's as well. Half the Warren Commission members didn't believe that Oswald acted alone, but were forced to sign the final conclusion.

If I point you to a mountain in front of you, and you refuse to see it, then I can't help you. But you clearly are delusional and in denial, not objective, factual or logical.

Watch the documentaries I listed above. They present a SHITLOAD of EVIDENCE, WITNESSES, TESTIMONIALS, WHISTLEBLOWERS, etc.

100 percent of the doctors and nurses who examined JFK's body said there was a massive exit wound. What does that tell you?

Why would they forge the autopsy photos if there were no conspiracy? DUH! It's too obvious. Are you that dishonest ProfWag?

Just because Oliver Stone said "alternative myth" doesn't mean that his film was fiction. It contained a ton of historical facts listed in Jim Marrs book "Crossfire". He was just presenting an alternative. Oliver Stone doesn't believe that Oswald acted alone. That much is clear. He believes that the government lied and covered up the truth, and is angry about it, rightfully so. Did you know that?

No one really believes that Oswald acted alone. Not even the government does. That's just something they HAVE to tell the public so that they don't have to investigate it and bring the guilty to trial. It's all a facade. Everyone knows it. Every man, woman, and dog knows it. By denying it, you make yourself look foolish ProfWag. Enough said.
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Re: JFK Assassination Conspiracy

Postby Scepcop » 17 Jul 2012, 07:30

Check out this take on things to my question on the David Icke forum. Isn't it pretty disturbing?

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=216594

"A group? Yes. Secret? No.

Well to be fair there is always the possibility that it could be a secret unknown group or groups always trying to infiltrate with varying degrees of success.

The central banking cabal is still at the top of the pyramid though and their globalization through controlling all the world's resources, usury, economic monopoly, etc. via warfare, terrorism, their media, their police, their intelligence agencies, etc. It's not a secret or really a conspiracy. When shills and useful idiots deny it as if it is some kook fantasy idea it's baseless accusation. Same thing with those shills who say that no one power controls the world. That's technically true, but the ones who do number in the single digits and are basically tentacle arms of the same octopus.

When people use the term illuminati, it's true that they are generally speaking about the these guys and their various subsidiaries. There are also groups in history who have called themselves illuminati who either have worked for these guys or have worked against them. Some even for the greater good.

A cover up is a good indication they are all working for the same purpose. Any loose ends (and there are circumstantial and non-circumstancial loose ends) could cause their house of cards to fall. In recent years they're getting sloppy. The whole Osama raid comes to mind. Whatever that really was, we only have clues from the locals and initial reports, none of which had anything to do with Osama and everything to do with a Pakistani military raid with no real indication of a SEAL involvement, an exploded helicopter which killed several people because the neighbors saw the corpses, and then later on the 'accidental' crash that killed SEALs allegedly involved.

The laughable Osama story (including magic DNA, instant sea burial, no photos, and a video of some old guy watching and 'Osama' video from behind) is the cover up for whatever occurred here by the media arm of the banksters (Which never reports actual truth, not even local news. If you're ever involved with even local news you'll see what I mean).

What we and our fellow humans need to come to terms with (if we haven't already done so) is that our government is not elected by the people. That is an illusion. They own us through contract slavery. They are an ownership class. They will never seriously investigate any of their crimes, including the JFK assassination, the USS Liberty incident, 9/11, etc. The media propaganda is written by them like Hollywood screenplay writers. Some of it IS written by Hollywood screenplay writers. Once they establish a narrative, the narrative becomes history. They will never revisit it or revise it unless it suits their purposes. Never.

All these people trying to get a new investigation going for 9/11 are wasting their time. They'll never approve of one and they'll never allow 3rd parties access to what is essentially their private property. We need to spread awareness from a rational POV so people understand this and overthrow them in a civil manner. They own the police and the military, but the police and military are mostly our people. Their leaders are not, but the people can be persuaded to denounce their leadership and take our side. Maybe that's wishful thinking, but I gotta hope.

One example of an established fake narrative is Iran Contra. Iran Contra and the courtroom drama was televised. This was a conspiracy theory that became conspiracy fact. A lot was written about it and it was no longer a secret. Since that time, the establishment has revised the narrative to make it sound better. Something to do with hostages which is not what it was about. It also ignores who it created the Los Zetas who trouble the US border today (which we still arm...). Or the Jessica Lynch story. There is Jessica Lynch's official recollection of the events backed up by everybody there. Then there is the media story which claims some sort of heroic rescue from terrorists that is currently the official story. Lynch is considered 'crazy' from being traumatized. This is meant to debunk the actual history despite it being backed up by others. That's another tactic they use. "
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Re: JFK Assassination Conspiracy

Postby ProfWag » 17 Jul 2012, 20:55

Scepcop wrote: Everyone knows it. Every man, woman, and dog knows it. By denying it, you make yourself look foolish ProfWag. Enough said.

Uhm, I don't deny that there is evidence there, but neither you nor anyone else has proven it. There is also solid evidence that Oswald was alone in the killings. And by you denying that, you make yourself look foolish Winston. Did you happen to read the official court transcripts I presented? You didn't? I didn't think you would since that might give you an alternate view of things.
And sorry, but I must have told you a million times by now, I don't take the word of conspiracy theorists very seriously. Information gathered to formulate my opinion must come from solid sources and you haven't presented that information yet (though I'm keeping my fingers crossed that maybe someday you will...)
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Re: JFK Assassination Conspiracy

Postby Scepcop » 19 Jul 2012, 11:19

Here is an obvious example of a paid shill online. In the IMDB boards for the JFK movie, this shill compares JFK's head during the fatal shot to a baseball bat, which is the most moronic comparison I've ever seen. Even ProfWag and Arouet would laugh at this one.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102138/boa ... #201922629

the one thing that made me believes that Oswald was the lone shooter is that kennedy goes straight backwards when hit in the head This makes perfect sense if he was shot by Oswald from behind becuz an object always moves towards the shooter when shot not in the direction of the bullet as CTers says. It is a law of phisics that an object moves towards something pushing against it Peeples do not fly back away from a shooter like they does in the movees but towards the shooter. This video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koSaDcTNNVk shows how an object moves in the direction of where it came from when hit. Notice how the ball flys towards the pitcher when coming off the bat just like how Kennedy flys back towards the book depoitory where Oswald fired the shot.

One thing that made me thinks that it was Oswald is that Kennedy and Conelly was both hit by the same bullet at the sAME tIME BECUZ cONELLY TURnED AROUND aFTER THEY WAS BOTH HIT AND yelled for Kennedy to get down becuz shots was being fired If you looks at the film at 8 seconds in you can see Conelly turns around and atrts yelling for Kennedy to get down becuz they was both hitted. Look at the film for yourself http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozx4_4DZp38 they was both hitted by the same bullet or Conelly would not have turned around to warn Kennedy/

Only dumbed down peeples who do not watch TV shows like Inside the TArget CAR and the one where they proved the magic bullet is real http://www.history-matters.com/essays/j ... ages/figur e_4_lrg.jpg still believes in a conspeericy. Watch more TV like me and go to John Mc Adams web site and read his book and you will be as smart as us.

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My laughing response to him:

My God. You are a terrible actor. Not even a redneck would make such a moronic statement. You can't compare Kennedy's head with a baseball bat. Kennedy's head was not swinging like a bat. It was stationary. If the bat didn't swing and just sat there, it would move AWAY from the ball after the ball hit it. It would not move toward the ball, unless someone swung it. Your analogy fails even in baseball.

Your post has to be the dumbest I've ever seen.

Not even you could be dumb enough to think that. Not even someone with a 0 IQ would think that.

Clearly you are a shill and paid internet propagandist no doubt.

No one who has fired a gun or been in the military thinks that an object flies toward the shooter. Go ask anyone who's been in the military.

That's a blatant lie. Not even a child would believe it.

What if JFK's head moved forward? Then you'd say that it was proof that it came from the back right?! BUSTED!!!

So either way, you will draw the same conclusion. You aren't seeking the truth here. You have an agenda. It's obvious. Watch the films I mentioned above to learn some real history.

Your fiction won't even make the fiction section. You are a terrible actor. You give yourself away since even the dumbest person in the world wouldn't make that statement.
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Re: JFK Assassination Conspiracy

Postby ProfWag » 19 Jul 2012, 21:12

Scepcop wrote:Your post has to be the dumbest I've ever seen.

Not even you could be dumb enough to think that. Not even someone with a 0 IQ would think that.

Clearly you are a shill and paid internet propagandist no doubt.

Although I tend to agree that comparing a gun shot with a baseball bat is probably not the best comparison, your response was quite rude. Besides, if you feel that strongly that his analogy was not accurate, would someone actually pay for services such as that or in other words, wouldn't you want info to be more accurate if you were paying someone to post conflicting reports? So, I believe that your statement that he is "clearly" a shill is quite wrong.
And regardless of that analogy, tests have shown that his head acted in accordance with what would be expected of someone being shot from the location of the 6th floor and not from the front or side.
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