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Re: JFK Assassination Conspiracy

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Re: JFK Assassination Conspiracy

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Re: JFK Assassination Conspiracy

Postby Scepcop » 25 Jun 2012, 05:35

Check out this interview with Lee Harvey Oswald's girlfriend, Judyth Vary Baker. She paints a picture of him that is totally different than the one portrayed in the media.

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On 07/17/2011 Popeye from Federaljack.com had an exclusive interview with Judyth Vary Baker, the girlfriend of Lee Harvey Oswald.
Judyth was once a promising science student who dreamed of finding a cure for cancer, but strayed from a path of mainstream scholarship at the University of Florida to a life of espionage in New Orleans with Lee Harvey Oswald.

Check her websites out where you can get her book:
http://meandlee.com/
http://judythbaker.blogspot.com/



Her interview on Coast to Coast:

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Judyth Vary Baker,the girlfriend of Lee Harvey Oswald the alleged killer of president John F. Kennedy tells a different story about Lee Harvey. She characterizes him not as a loner or crazy nutjob but instead as a noble and bright US government operative who was made patsy for one of the biggest crimes in political history becuase he knew too much.

http://www.soundboard.com/sb/Oswald_girlfriend_JFK.aspx
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Re: JFK Assassination Conspiracy

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Re: JFK Assassination Conspiracy

Postby Scepcop » 27 Jun 2012, 04:21

Here is Oswald's mistress, Judyth Baker, featured on the History Channel documentary series "The Men Who Killed Kennedy". She describes how she and Oswald worked for US intelligence, what they were assigned to do, and how he was framed for the JFK Assassination. It's a very touching story and will make you see Oswald in a new light.

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Re: JFK Assassination Conspiracy

Postby Scepcop » 27 Jun 2012, 23:40

Check out this informative and extensive documentary series called "Evidence of Revision" that goes in depth into the famous lone nut assassinations of the 1960's, such as JFK, RFK and MLK. It shows how the government lied, suppressed evidence, covered up the truth, intimidated and threatened witnesses, etc. Forgotten news coverage is shown, as well as analysis and comments by experts, historians, insiders, whistleblowers and witnesses. This series is very disturbing. After viewing this, you will never look at your government the same way again, when you learn the dirty ugly truths about how people at the top run things and what they will do to protect or further their interests.

It is the most in-depth and extensive documentary on these assassinations ever put together. You can also purchase a copy of the whole 10 hour series on Amazon.com. Check out the raving reviews of it there:

http://www.amazon.com/Evidence-Revision ... B004EC6H84

Here it is on YouTube.

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This is the mindblowing 6-part, 10 hour, video documentary series Evidence of Revision whose purpose is to present the publicly unavailable and even suppressed historical audio, video and film recordings largely unseen by the American and world public relating to the assassination of the Kennedy brothers, the little known classified "Black Ops" actually used to intentionally create the massive war in Viet Nam, the CIA "mind control" programs and their involvement in the RFK assassination and the Jonestown massacre and other important truths of our post-modern time.

Part 1 of 6:



In part 2, it presents a compelling case that Lyndon Johnson was behind having JFK killed. He has the means, motive and opportunity, and stood to gain the most from it. His mistress has even come out and revealed what she knew about the plot. What is shown is very incriminating.

Part 2 of 6:



This documentary, created by Pulitzer prize winning journalist Jack Anderson, presents strong evidence from mafia insiders that the mafia was clearly involved in the JFK Assassination. Oswald's wife Marina is also interviewed in it.

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Re: JFK Assassination Conspiracy

Postby ProfWag » 29 Jun 2012, 20:51

Scepcop wrote:Check out this interview with Lee Harvey Oswald's girlfriend, Judyth Vary Baker. She paints a picture of him that is totally different than the one portrayed in the media.

So you believe Judyth's story? Is there any chance she's making it up?
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Re: JFK Assassination Conspiracy

Postby Scepcop » 30 Jun 2012, 09:53

ProfWag wrote:
Scepcop wrote:Check out this interview with Lee Harvey Oswald's girlfriend, Judyth Vary Baker. She paints a picture of him that is totally different than the one portrayed in the media.

So you believe Judyth's story? Is there any chance she's making it up?


Sure, but why believe she's making it up, when there is plenty of evidence that Oswald was innocent and a patsy?

Watch the 10 hour documentary above, or at least the first three hours of it. It'll change anyone's mind who believes the Warren Commission's findings.

What LBJ's mistress reveals in part 2 will shock you.

Do you believe every lone nut assassination out there had no plot behind it? lol Do you believe every lie and cover up you're told? lol
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Re: JFK Assassination Conspiracy

Postby ProfWag » 01 Jul 2012, 00:37

Scepcop wrote:
ProfWag wrote:
Scepcop wrote:Check out this interview with Lee Harvey Oswald's girlfriend, Judyth Vary Baker. She paints a picture of him that is totally different than the one portrayed in the media.

So you believe Judyth's story? Is there any chance she's making it up?


Sure, but why believe she's making it up, when there is plenty of evidence that Oswald was innocent and a patsy?

Watch the 10 hour documentary above, or at least the first three hours of it. It'll change anyone's mind who believes the Warren Commission's findings.

What LBJ's mistress reveals in part 2 will shock you.

Do you believe every lone nut assassination out there had no plot behind it? lol Do you believe every lie and cover up you're told? lol


Absolutely not.
Even if Oswald WAS innocent (he wasn't), does that mean Judyth Baker is being honest in her story?
Do you believe every nutty conspiracy?
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Re: JFK Assassination Conspiracy

Postby NinjaPuppy » 01 Jul 2012, 01:33

ProfWag wrote:Even if Oswald WAS innocent (he wasn't), does that mean Judyth Baker is being honest in her story?
Do you believe every nutty conspiracy?

I'm curious about your choice of wording here ProfWag. What's so "nutty" about this CT?

I think we all can agree that any one person's story related to the people and events of that day may not be 100% accurate. I'm almost positive that you will agree that any official government report of this nature is going to have details that are NOT released to the public. Heck, even the local police departments keep certain key pieces of information out of the media and confidential for certain reasons.

Now back to my original question about this conspiracy being nutty?

As CTs go, this particular one has at least some merit due to all of the information at hand as well as information that doesn't make complete sense. Even Judyth Vary Baker's claims don't make sense. EX: She fears for her life but she's on a book promotion. Certainly not "nutty" but it does make me wonder.

While trying to at least get up to speed with this interview, I found this quote from Peter Worthington: http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/peter-wort ... 17806.html
What I find interesting is how some of the witnesses of JFK's murder that November noon who were quoted extensively at the time, have changed their stories as years have passed. This isn't sinister, but human memory at work. As time passes and more details are learned, stories tend to change or adapt without the person realizing it.


I found this article to be an excellent, short read related to this subject as I personally am not up to date with the latest on the JFK assassination facts and even if I were to listen to the video, I doubt I'll be able to form any sort of opinion as to it's validity due to my lack of known facts. I do appreciate that SCEPCOP has started a thread about this as it's food for thought and fodder for witty conversation.

CTs are not everyone's cup of tea. They are a persons or a group of people's suspicions or theories. Nothing more, nothing less. Nothing "nutty" about them really. Even if someone claims that Lee Harvey Oswald could fart purple unicorns, it's only a theory. Logic prevails that people can't fart purple unicorns so it's not like the rest of the world isn't going to lose sleep wondering why they fart pink ones.
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Re: JFK Assassination Conspiracy

Postby ProfWag » 03 Jul 2012, 00:11

NinjaPuppy wrote:
ProfWag wrote:Even if Oswald WAS innocent (he wasn't), does that mean Judyth Baker is being honest in her story?
Do you believe every nutty conspiracy?

I'm curious about your choice of wording here ProfWag. What's so "nutty" about this CT?

I think we all can agree that any one person's story related to the people and events of that day may not be 100% accurate. I'm almost positive that you will agree that any official government report of this nature is going to have details that are NOT released to the public. Heck, even the local police departments keep certain key pieces of information out of the media and confidential for certain reasons.

Now back to my original question about this conspiracy being nutty?

As CTs go, this particular one has at least some merit due to all of the information at hand as well as information that doesn't make complete sense. Even Judyth Vary Baker's claims don't make sense. EX: She fears for her life but she's on a book promotion. Certainly not "nutty" but it does make me wonder.

While trying to at least get up to speed with this interview, I found this quote from Peter Worthington: http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/peter-wort ... 17806.html
What I find interesting is how some of the witnesses of JFK's murder that November noon who were quoted extensively at the time, have changed their stories as years have passed. This isn't sinister, but human memory at work. As time passes and more details are learned, stories tend to change or adapt without the person realizing it.


I found this article to be an excellent, short read related to this subject as I personally am not up to date with the latest on the JFK assassination facts and even if I were to listen to the video, I doubt I'll be able to form any sort of opinion as to it's validity due to my lack of known facts. I do appreciate that SCEPCOP has started a thread about this as it's food for thought and fodder for witty conversation.

CTs are not everyone's cup of tea. They are a persons or a group of people's suspicions or theories. Nothing more, nothing less. Nothing "nutty" about them really. Even if someone claims that Lee Harvey Oswald could fart purple unicorns, it's only a theory. Logic prevails that people can't fart purple unicorns so it's not like the rest of the world isn't going to lose sleep wondering why they fart pink ones.

Sorry. I didn't mean to start an incident using the word "nutty." There are some very legitimate CTs out there (JFK being one of them.) I guess I just get tired of him taking exception to me as if I believe everything the government tells me, yet Scepcop on the other hand, can post some pretty "remarkable" stuff that he wants us to take at face value. I'll apologize for using the word "nutty" and request to simply leave out the word "nutty" so it would read "...believe every conspiracy theory out there..." Better Ninja? (Though please note that I won't be able to help it if the word "nutty" goes through my mind while reading some of the posts in this forum...)
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Re: JFK Assassination Conspiracy

Postby Scepcop » 04 Jul 2012, 03:36

I just saw JFK (1991) again by Oliver Stone. I hadn't seen it in many years. Wow it is a real masterpiece, one of the greatest ever. The film is also powerful and eloquent, and stirs up your anger. It also opens your eyes to how thinks work at the highest levels of the US government. It packs a lot of evidence and arguments into 3 hrs 20 min that is comprehensive and beyond convincing.

I would say that most of it is probably true since it is based on years of research by top researchers like Jim Marrs and Robert Groden. But even if only 10 percent of it were true, it would still be conclusive proof of a conspiracy. It is also an entertaining thriller and very gripping. Lots of dots were connected and logical motivations were explained, giving you the big picture. The part with Mr. X was very revealing.

Anyone who wants to understand American history and what caused the turning point when people no longer trusted their government anymore, due to its lies and overt cover up of this event, should see this film. I strongly recommend you all see it, even if you already saw it long ago. You can rent it, download it from a torrent, or buy the director's cut on Amazon.com, which is now only a few dollars.

I can't believe when it came out in 1991, the mainstream media bashed it for no reason other than that it contradicted the official lone nut story. Clearly the media is not interested in truth, they are only interested in supporting whatever the establishment wants. Truth is clearly not their job. They have no logical basis to argue that it was all fiction, since much of it does check out. The media is controlled, so of course it is going to be part of any government cover up. What did you expect? Any journalist, including Walter Kronkite or Dan Rather, who supports any conspiracy, no matter how true, will lose their career. So of course they have no choice but to agree with the Warren Commission, even if deep down they don't.

Long ago in a college library, when I was bored, I read Gerald Posner's "Case Closed", a huge propaganda book that tried to defend the official story. But it didn't disprove anything. All it did was reject all conspiracy evidence and all eyewitnesses on no basis other than that it didn't match the official story. It cherry picked the evidence, used confirmation bias, and cognitive dissonance.

What I don't get is:

- If there was no cover up, then why were many witnesses harassed, bullied and threatened, or silenced in some cases? Why was witness testimony often altered, as in the case of the Warren Commission and 9/11 Commission reports? Why would they need to do that if it's a simple open and shut case? It doesn't make any sense! The media and the propagandists of the official version of things can never explain that. All they do is ridicule you if you don't believe in the official version of things.

- Why were the doctors at Parkland Hospital told that their medical careers would be over if they told anyone about the large exit would they found on Kennedy's head? Several of them, including Dr. Crenshaw, have come out and exposed that. Of course the media is going to try to discredit them. Duh. That's their job.

- Why are documents classified and locked up, if there are no secrets?

- Why did Posner in "Case Closed" lie about interviewing people that he didn't? Many of his interviewees have come out saying that he never talked to them.

- Posner's most ridiculous claim in "Case Closed" is that Kennedy's head moved back and to the left in the Zapruder film, because the bullet that came from behind was so powerful that it caused his head to move toward it, rather than away from it. That is the biggest BS ever. Everyone I talked to who's been in the military has said that that's BS and that objects hit with bullets move AWAY from the bullet, not toward it. This claim alone makes Posner dishonest. I'll bet you anything that if the Zapruder film had shown Kennedy's head move forward rather than backward, after the final shot to the head, Posner would NOT have then claimed that the shot must have come from the front! He would have taken that as evidence that the shot came from behind. Thus, whether Kennedy's head moved forward or backward after that shot, either way Posner would have declared that in favor of the shot coming from behind! And everyone knows it! Thus his hypocrisy is revealed. This alone proves his dishonesty.

What propagandists don't understand is that denying something or saying that something isn't true, doesn't make it so. For example, I could deny that there is water on earth, but that doesn't make it true. There is still water on earth. In a similar fashion, denying that there were 50 witnesses who heard the shot coming from the grassy knoll, doesn't erase that fact out of reality, like Gerald Posner thinks it does. But yet, that's the game they play. They think that by denying something, they erase its existence. But it doesn't. So it's an insult to our intelligence. They can't change the facts. All they can do is lie and tell you that they are right and that you should believe them. They like to tell you WHAT to think, not how to think.

We are surrounded by such propagandists. They've infiltrated into every industry and every department, so of course, they are going to take over the internet and hijack all the forums as well, to try to influence public opinion to accept whatever is official. Every conspiracy board is infested with fanatics who ridicule, obfuscate and lie to defend every official explanation. That's their job, information control, not truth seeking. So they will spin everything to try to prove a point, even if it's totally false. It's crazy.
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Re: JFK Assassination Conspiracy

Postby Scepcop » 04 Jul 2012, 04:13

Btw, there's something I never understood about Jack Ruby.

Why did he do it? What did he have to gain by killing Oswald and going to jail? This has never been explained. Saving Mrs. Kennedy from going to trial is not a valid motive, esp since it wasn't even proven that Oswald was guilty. No one would kill someone for such a strange reason anyway.

Also, since he was in jail for 3 or 4 years before he died of cancer, why is there only a one minute interview with him where he simply says "The world will never know the truth about my motives" and other spurious things? Why didn't someone do a more extensive interview with him during all those years to find out who ordered him to shoot Oswald and why? And why didn't Ruby give more details about the whole plot or tell more? It seemed like such a waste - 3 years in jail and only a one minute interview on camera? WTF happened? What a wasted opportunity. It doesn't make any logical sense.
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Re: JFK Assassination Conspiracy

Postby Scepcop » 04 Jul 2012, 04:50

NinjaPuppy wrote:
ProfWag wrote:Even if Oswald WAS innocent (he wasn't), does that mean Judyth Baker is being honest in her story?
Do you believe every nutty conspiracy?

I'm curious about your choice of wording here ProfWag. What's so "nutty" about this CT?

I think we all can agree that any one person's story related to the people and events of that day may not be 100% accurate. I'm almost positive that you will agree that any official government report of this nature is going to have details that are NOT released to the public. Heck, even the local police departments keep certain key pieces of information out of the media and confidential for certain reasons.

Now back to my original question about this conspiracy being nutty?

As CTs go, this particular one has at least some merit due to all of the information at hand as well as information that doesn't make complete sense. Even Judyth Vary Baker's claims don't make sense. EX: She fears for her life but she's on a book promotion. Certainly not "nutty" but it does make me wonder.


If you watch her interview on the History Channel, she explains that she feared for her life because David Ferrie said she would be killed if she told about Oswald's involvement in the CIA. She had a husband and kids at the time that she had to protect. But now that her children are grown, she no longer fears for her life as much since she has nothing to lose. And plus, she wants to clear Oswald's name. Watch her interview above.

While trying to at least get up to speed with this interview, I found this quote from Peter Worthington: http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/peter-wort ... 17806.html
What I find interesting is how some of the witnesses of JFK's murder that November noon who were quoted extensively at the time, have changed their stories as years have passed. This isn't sinister, but human memory at work. As time passes and more details are learned, stories tend to change or adapt without the person realizing it.


Well of course the mainstream media is going to say that. Their objective isn't truth. They are public relations people for the official version of things. They are definitely not objective. If they said anything in support of a conspiracy, they'd be shut down or replaced.

There are plenty of witnesses whose testimony is consistent, and whose testimonials were altered by the Warren Commission. If you take that into account, then it makes more sense why their story would change, since it was originally altered and suppressed. Don't take propagandists at their word.

I found this article to be an excellent, short read related to this subject as I personally am not up to date with the latest on the JFK assassination facts and even if I were to listen to the video, I doubt I'll be able to form any sort of opinion as to it's validity due to my lack of known facts. I do appreciate that SCEPCOP has started a thread about this as it's food for thought and fodder for witty conversation.

CTs are not everyone's cup of tea. They are a persons or a group of people's suspicions or theories. Nothing more, nothing less. Nothing "nutty" about them really. Even if someone claims that Lee Harvey Oswald could fart purple unicorns, it's only a theory. Logic prevails that people can't fart purple unicorns so it's not like the rest of the world isn't going to lose sleep wondering why they fart pink ones.


Watch that 10 hour film above "Evidence of Revision", or at least half of it. You will be convinced after that for sure that there was a conspiracy. No question about it. Or go rent the film JFK or get it on Amazon.com. It's only a few dollars now for the director's cut. It packs a mountain of evidence into 3 hours.

ProfWag wrote:Absolutely not.
Even if Oswald WAS innocent (he wasn't), does that mean Judyth Baker is being honest in her story?
Do you believe every nutty conspiracy?


No, but this one has a mountain of evidence that proves the conspiracy many times over.
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Re: JFK Assassination Conspiracy

Postby Scepcop » 09 Jul 2012, 23:17

Check out this review I just posted on Amazon.com for Gerald Posner's "Case Closed", a huge book that tries to prove that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone in killing JFK:

"I read Gerald Posner's book "Case Closed" in college when I had nothing to do. It sounded convincing for a while, but I didn't like his tone. He seemed very pushy and adamant that Oswald acted alone, when logically, no honest objective investigator could be completely certain about something like that. Thus, he seemed a lot more like a propagandist than a real investigator seeking the truth.

Plus, he seemed to arrogantly wave his dismissal like a magic wand. For example, he denied that there were 51 witnesses who heard shots coming from the grassy knoll. Instead, he says there were only 2 and neither of them are credible. Also, when he addressed the doctors at Parkland Hospital, who all said they saw a massive exit wound on Kennedy's head, (which they've even said on video), he simply denies it and said that they were all wrong because the faked autopsy photos show no exit wound. It seems that in Posner's world, cover ups don't exist and are impossible, so they are never taken into account. Everything official is fact, and there is no manipulation or cover up.

However, unfortunately for Posner, many of these eyewitnesses who heard the shot coming from the grassy knoll, have testified to it on video, so Posner can't simply just deny that they exist, lest he look like a fool. Dr. Crenshaw has even come out publicly about the exit wound on the back of JFK's head that he saw. It's on video, so Posner and the propagandists can't deny it. Too bad for them.

Regardless of the debate over evidence, if there were no conspiracy and it were an open and shut case, then why are so many witnesses threatened, intimidated and often silenced and killed? It doesn't make any sense. Even David Ferrie was killed and made to look like a suicide, which was shown in the JFK film, before he could be brought to trial in the Jim Garrison case. Why were the doctors at Parkland Hospital threatened into not talking about the exist wound on the back of Kennedy's head? Why threaten anybody if there's no cover up and it's a simple open and shut case? Why did the government forge the official autopsy and x-rays to cover up the exit wound at the back of the head, which 100 percent of the doctors and nurses saw? That makes no logical sense, and the lone nutters can't explain that, so they simply deny it all. Totally illogical.

Posner simply denies that any witnesses are killed or threatened. He acts like he's God. He says it doesn't exist, so it doesn't. And thus, he erases a mountain of evidence with his magic wand of denial. What a dickwad. Posner's face even looks like a weasel. He obviously has an agenda and is not objective or truth seeking. No rational honest person would be that certain that Owald acted alone unless he had an agenda.

The most ridiculous claim that Posner made was in claiming that the reason Kennedy's head moves back and to the left in the Zapruder film, is because the shot from behind that hit him, was so powerful that it created a boomerang effect inside his skull that made the President's head move backward TOWARD the bullet's origin rather than away from it. If that isn't the biggest load of crap, then I don't know what is. I'll bet you anything that if the Zapruder film had shown Kennedy's head move foward, then Posner would have cited that as evidence of the shot coming from the back too. So, whether the head moved backward or forward, Posner would have used that as evidence that the shot came from behind. So either way, it came from behind, no matter what direction the head moved. What this means is not only that Posner has a double standard in this, but that he has an AGENDA as well.

Further, regarding Posner, did you know that he has also written other books arguing that the Robert F. Kennedy and Martin Luther King assassinations were also the result of a lone nut only? Now what are the odds that a "objective impartial" investigator could investigate all three assassinations - JFK, RFK and MLK - and conclude in all of them that the government's verdict of a lone nut assassin with no motive was the right one, when there is a lot of evidence to the contrary? It's very unlikely that an impartial truth seeking investigator would come to that conclusion. It's more likely that an agenda-driven or highly biased investigator would do that. Think about it. (For extensive info on the RFK and MLK assassinations, see the film "Evidence of Revision")

You gotta understand that Posner is a lawyer. Attorneys specialize in prosecution and have a vested interest in it. They do not specialize in being impartial and unbiased, nor in science and logic. This means that they are highly selective in their search for information. To them, any target to be prosecuted is automatically guilty in their eyes.

To find out who is behind a conspiracy, the rule of thumb is to "follow the money" and ask "Who benefitted the most? Who had the means, motive and opportunity to carry out this crime and cover up?"

In this case, Oswald had no motive and nothing to gain, but everything to lose. The ones who gained were the military industrial complex (which had a huge profit incentive in the Vietnam War), Lyndon Johnson (who became President and reversed JFK's order to withdraw from Vietnam), J. Edgar Hoover (the FBI director that Kennedy wanted to fire), the CIA (which Kennedy wanted to dismantle), the banking industry and Federal Reserve (which Kennedy wanted to curtail its abuse), and others. All of these institutions are of course, above the law and hence why they were not investigated or prosecuted.

A lone nut assassin may be able to obtain a rifle, but he would NOT be able order the Secret Service to stand down, or lure President Kennedy into Dallas. Nor would he be able to cover it up (especially after he's dead). He would NOT be able to alter the entry/exit wounds on JFK's body, or forge the autopsy photos to cover up the massive exit wound in the back of JFK's head, or get the Warren Commission to agree to a pre-determined conclusion, or get the FBI and CIA to help cover it up, or threaten and silence witnesses, etc. And neither would the mob, Castro or the Russians. But on the other hand, those at the highest levels of government, military, finance, the oil cartel, intelligence, FBI, and CIA definitely had the ability to do all that. They had the means, motive and opportunity to orchestrate the assassination and cover it up afterward.

That's the bottom line here, and is as simple as basic math. Since the lone nut propagandists can't refute this, all they can do is deny and dismiss it all. So don't let them fool you into believing that 2 + 2 = 5 rather than 4. They will try though, no doubt.

Most people have come to realize that the Kennedy Assassination was a conspiracy and cover up. But that doesn't stop the continuing disinfo by the establishment, media and their lone nut propagandists such as Posner and Bugliosi. Since they have no logical defense against the overwhelming evidence of a conspiracy and cover up in the assassination, they’ve had to resort to falsification, denial and red herrings. It's their only chance after all. Their modus operandi seems to be "If the facts don't fit the theory, then reject the facts." But wise rational people are not fooled. And I hope you won't be either. By spouting such falsehoods, they insult the legacy of JFK by assisting in the cover up of the truth about his assassination.

First, the lone nut apologists pontificate the extreme claim that there is no evidence of a conspiracy. Then they accuse those who believe in a conspiracy of having a psychological need to balance out "cause and effect". They argue that conspiracy believers are unable to reconcile the greatness of JFK with an insignificant nobody like Lee Harvey Oswald. So they need an equally powerful evil force responsible for taking him out to make sense out of it. These propagandists are fond of parroting this explanation to try to discredit the conspiracy, since they cannot refute it logically. It's extremely dishonest propaganda.

While the need to balance out cause and effect may be a psychological factor in conspiracy belief, it does NOT negate the fact that a huge amount of evidence exists which strongly indicates that there was a conspiracy involved in the assassination, which I have outlined above. Taken cumulatively, it becomes conclusive. For people like Posner and Bugliosi to claim that no evidence exists is akin to claiming that the mountain in front of you that everyone sees isn't there. It's a ludicrous insult to your intelligence. The fact of the matter is: The REAL REASON why most people believe that the JFK assassination was the result of a conspiracy, is because of the STRONG EVIDENCE, of both a conspiracy and cover up, not because of a psychological need to believe in one.

To learn the truth about the Kennedy Assassination, I recommend these books, which you can find on Amazon.com, and films which you can watch on YouTube.

Recommended books:

- Crossfire: The Plot That Killed Kennedy by Jim Marrs
- High Treason by Robert Groden
- JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why It Matters by James Douglass
- JFK: The CIA, Vietnam and the Plot to Assassinate John F. Kennedy by Fletcher Prouty
- Last Word: My Indictment of the CIA in the Murder of JFK by Mark Lane
- Murder in Dealey Plaza: What We Know Now that We Didn't Know Then by James H. Fetzer
- American Conspiracies: Lies, Lies, and More Dirty Lies that the Government Tells Us by Jesse Ventura and Dick Russell

Recommended films:

- JFK (1991) by Oliver Stone (a 3 hour brilliant masterpiece, eloquent and moving, must see!)
- JFK: The Case for Conspiracy by Robert Groden (the best JFK documentary, very logical and persuasive, must see!)
- The Men Who Killed Kennedy (9 episode series produced by the History Channel, very informative containing lots of evidence, later banned due to pressure)
- Evidence of Revision (very long, 9 hours, deals with the JFK, RFK and MLK assassinations)"
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