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Expert Pilots say Flight 77 maneuvers impossible on 9/11

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Re: Expert Pilots say Flight 77 maneuvers impossible on 9/11

Postby NinjaPuppy » 05 Oct 2012, 20:22

ProfWag wrote:Just because there are shoddy investigators and questionable crime labs do not mean that Timothy Mcveigh was not responsible for OKC or that 19 terrorist hijackers were not responsible for the deaths of 3,000 people on 9/11. The mountain of evidence, the eye witnesses, the confessions of Al Qaeda, and the massive number of people who would have had to have been in on any other conspiracy all point to terrorists being responsible for 9/11.

But it's the shoddy investigators and questionable lab work, along with information that's deemed "confidential" that creates a CT. In other words, two wrongs don't make a right but two Wright's make an airplane that eventually flies into a large building. ;)
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Re: Expert Pilots say Flight 77 maneuvers impossible on 9/11

Postby ProfWag » 05 Oct 2012, 20:55

NinjaPuppy wrote:
ProfWag wrote:Just because there are shoddy investigators and questionable crime labs do not mean that Timothy Mcveigh was not responsible for OKC or that 19 terrorist hijackers were not responsible for the deaths of 3,000 people on 9/11. The mountain of evidence, the eye witnesses, the confessions of Al Qaeda, and the massive number of people who would have had to have been in on any other conspiracy all point to terrorists being responsible for 9/11.

But it's the shoddy investigators and questionable lab work, along with information that's deemed "confidential" that creates a CT. In other words, two wrongs don't make a right but two Wright's make an airplane that eventually flies into a large building. ;)

Cute Ninja.
I wholeheartedly agree that there was some fishy stuff that happened, I don't believe there is anything to deny there, but in the end, the theories don't stand up to scrutiny.
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Re: Expert Pilots say Flight 77 maneuvers impossible on 9/11

Postby SydneyPSIder » 05 Oct 2012, 22:21

ProfWag wrote:
SydneyPSIder wrote:Yes, wag, but your feelings are always classic pseudosceptic ones, and are therefore scientifically invalid. I see you're going to great lengths to discredit evidence concerning the guy who was used as a stooge by just attacking the guy, which is utterly irrelevant to the evidence being presented.

The compromised testimony and pictorial evidence of Lloyde England blows a huge hole in the official story when put together with numerous eyewitness accounts of a different trajectory of a plane observed moving towards the Pentagon. The official pictures don't jibe with eyewitness testimony. Accounts of eyewitnesses throughout the events of 9/11 have been ignored by the offical enquiry for convenience.

I don't think a few obfuscating pseudosceptics on this site are doing much to cast any real light on the matter, or undermine the legitimate alternative investigation which is making significantly different findings from the official account of events.

Are you sure that we watched the same video? His "secretly taped" conversation from the backseat was very, very heavily edited. How do you know he was even talking about 9/11? You don't. That video you referenced cannot in any way, shape, or form cannot even be presentedd as evidence much less blowing a "huge hole in the official story."

Sorry, not buying it. You're forgetting the photo of his car with a windscreen smashed with a hammer, his denial of the true location of the car, claiming it was somewhere else when they pointed out the official story trajectory is wrong on the eyewitness evidence, etc. You would make a lousy cop, a lousy courtroom judge, a lousy teacher, and a lousy employer, if you engaged with likelihoods in that autistic a way in the real world. You might make a good dissembling spook, working for the CIA or FBI. Just playing a pointless, classic pseudosceptic game.
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Re: Expert Pilots say Flight 77 maneuvers impossible on 9/11

Postby Arouet » 05 Oct 2012, 23:18

Sydney- are the insults necessary in this conversation?
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Re: Expert Pilots say Flight 77 maneuvers impossible on 9/11

Postby ProfWag » 06 Oct 2012, 03:12

ProfWag wrote:
SydneyPSIder wrote:Are you sure that we watched the same video? His "secretly taped" conversation from the backseat was very, very heavily edited. How do you know he was even talking about 9/11? You don't. That video you referenced cannot in any way, shape, or form cannot even be presentedd as evidence much less blowing a "huge hole in the official story."

SydneyPSIder wrote:Sorry, not buying it. You're forgetting the photo of his car with a windscreen smashed with a hammer, his denial of the true location of the car, claiming it was somewhere else when they pointed out the official story trajectory is wrong on the eyewitness evidence, etc. You would make a lousy cop, a lousy courtroom judge, a lousy teacher, and a lousy employer, if you engaged with likelihoods in that autistic a way in the real world. You might make a good dissembling spook, working for the CIA or FBI. Just playing a pointless, classic pseudosceptic game.

You're not buying what Sydney? That the video that you, yourself, referenced was not heavily edited? If you can't see that for yourself, and can't admit that we don't know what subject he's even talking about, then I just don't know what else to say other than just keep insulting others and see how far it gets you...
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Re: Expert Pilots say Flight 77 maneuvers impossible on 9/11

Postby SydneyPSIder » 06 Oct 2012, 10:24

It's clearly not heavily edited. Sorry, not rising to the bait. Read your PS list.
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