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Something seems very wrong here!

Obviously. No kidding.

Hey get this. When I brought up this post to some skeptics on my mailing list, they argued that these two experienced pilots quoted were only trained to fly aircraft safely and not to do kamikaze maneuvers, and that therefore these pilots were not qualified to assess whether Flight 77's kamikaze maneuvers were possible or not. Then they said that only aircraft engineers can assess an aircraft's ability to do certain maneuvers, and not the pilots themselves.

Is that the stupidest thing you ever heard or what?

So I ask these skeptics what qualifications they have in aviation maneuvers and why their opinion is more valid than pilots with 40+ years of experience. They offered no credentials or qualifications. So I laughed and said,

"Get real! Who do you think people would rather believe, pilots with 40+ years of real life experience flying various aircraft, including jet fighters and airliners, or some skeptic BSing behind a keyboard making up shit as he goes along?! Gimme a break!"

How ridiculous can they get?! And they call themselves "rational"? LOL

So then I ask them for a list of aircraft engineers who say that Flight 77's maneuvers were possible, engineers that are not affiliated with the government or are in danger of losing their jobs for speaking freely. They couldn't come up with any either.

Why do these guys have no sense of humility? Sheesh. They act like know-it-alls, even in areas they are not qualified in at all.

I just watched ZERO!!!!!

WOW !!!!!

Skeptics,
Do your qualifications match his? Have you flown 100 types of aircraft? Do you hold every FAA airmanship certificate that exists?

http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/pilots.html

John Lear – Retired commercial airline pilot with over 19,000+ total hours flown in over 100 different types of planes for 10 different airlines in 60 different countries around the world. Flew for over 40 years. Holds every certificate ever offered by the FAA and has 23 different FAA type ratings. Held 17 world records including speed around the world in a Lear Jet Model 24, set in 1966. He was presented with the PATCO award for outstanding airmanship in 1968, and the Symons Wave memorial. Flight experience includes Boeing 707 and 727, McDonnell Douglas DC-8, Lockheed L-1011 and many others. Son of Bill Lear, founder of Lear Jet Corp.

* Audio interview with Rob Balsamo 3/9/07: Regarding the Flight Data Recorder information for Flight 77, which allegedly hit the Pentagon, released by the NTSB

John Lear: There's a lot things in that tape that came up, that if you're a pilot, you say, "Hey, wait a minute. That's bull****. That could never happen in a million years." ...

Rob Balsamo: What did you think about 9/11 after you saw it?

John Lear: Well, you know, five minutes after it happened, I knew that it was a scam. ... No Boeing 757 ever crashed into the Pentagon. No Boeing 757 ever crashed at Shanksville. ... And no Arab hijacker, ever in a million years, ever flew into the World Trade Center. And if you got 30 minutes I'll tell you exactly why he couldn't do it the first time. Now, I'd have trouble doing it the first time.

Rob Balsamo: Yeah, same here.

John Lear: Maybe if I had a couple tries to line up a few building, I could have done it. But certainly not the first time and certainly not at 500 or 600 miles an hour.

Rob Balsamo: Yeah, as a matter of fact, one of our members, he was a 737 Check Airman. He was in the sim at the time on September 11 and right after it happened they tried to duplicate it in the simulator and they said they couldn't do it. They were trying to hit the Towers and they couldn't do it. ...

John Lear: Yeah, it would be an amazing feat of airmanship. ...

John Lear: People ask, you know, why do I think that 9/11 was a scam. They say, "Why would the government do that?" And I said, there's three basic reasons. Number 1; they wanted to take away all our liberties and they had to pose a threat to do that. Number 2; they wanted a reason to go into Afghanistan. ... Then the third thing was we had to have a pretext for going into Iraq.

Sounds to me like your pilot is making a judgemental statement based on something other than evidence. "Well, you know, five minutes after it happened, I knew that it was a scam. "

John Lear explains in more detail here in this video:



Also see this video starting at 8:00 where a Boeing Rep confirms that an aircraft CANNOT move at 400mph while only 700ft in the air. No one can make it move that fast at that altitude.

Sorry Scepcop, but based in part on the information I posted above, John Lear's opinion about 9/11 is meaningless. Hell even his wife doesn't agree with him!

I love how Winston's gone full on no-planer on us

I guess it was only a matter of time, he believes anything anyone says so long as he thinks it disagrees with a popular opinion.

I just uploaded an interview with Ralph Kolstad here:

Description:

Kevin Barrett interviews Commander Ralph Kolstad, a retired US Navy Top Gun Pilot and Veteran Airline Pilot, who explains why the official version of the 9/11 attacks on the Twin Towers were not aerodynamically possible and can not be replicated by any pilot in the world. As one of the most experienced pilots in the world with over 100 combat missions under his belt, Kolstad's testimony and analysis carries a lot of weight.



To hear more about pilots, experts, scientists and engineers who dispute the official 9/11 story, visit:
http://www.patriotsquestion911.com
http://www.pilotsfor911truth.org
http://www.ae911truth.org