Why the elites are sociopaths without empathy - David Icke

[Scepcop]

Ever wonder why the elites constantly need to start pointless wars and cause the bloodshed of millions (e.g. WWII, Vietnam, Iraq)? And always need to keep us living in a constant state of fear and survival mode? And why they have no empathy or conscience regarding death and bloodshed?

This guy I listen to named David Icke gives some reasons for it that are really "out there" but they make more sense than what the mainstream media tells us.

Here are some mind blowing clips in which he addresses these issues. He is on a whole nother wavelength and speaks with such passion and dedication that you can't help but wonder whether what he says might be true and that reality is totally different than what we think it is. It's so mind blowing.

[Scepcop]

Check out this incredible mind blowing recent interview on Edge TV with David Icke I watched last night. In it he talks about the hybrid bloodlines of the elite, their Satanic rituals and why they perform them, and how the Moon serves as a muffler to cut us off from the higher vibrational frequences of the universe.

It's very entertaining, whether you believe it or not. Afterward, you will wonder if you've lost your mind

[Scepcop]

Check out this incredible 6 hour lecture by David Icke at the Brixton Academy in front of 2500 people called "Beyond the Cutting Edge". If you watch it all the way through, you will come out a different person, guaranteed.

The knowledge and information he imparts in this is priceless. But don't watch this unless you are willing to have the veil of illusion removed from your perception. Some of this information is quite disturbing.

Here are all three parts, 2 hours each. I'm not going to embed it this time because it contains a lot of slides that are best viewed in full screen or widescreen format, which you can select on YouTube.

Part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQl1umch ... re=related

Part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hajn3ZyK ... re=related

Part 3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oI4AT--Z ... re=related

[Arouet]

I haven't listened to all of that, but Scecop, he's talking about lizard people! I mean, I don't even know how to respond to a claim like that. Is there ANY evidence that supports his point of view? Outside of Icke's own head that is?

You've listened to the whole thing: what convincing evidence do you feel he's brought forward? Why should he be taken seriously?

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[ProfWag]

[Arouet]

[Arouet]

Ok, made it almost to the end of part 2. Now, this is my first time listening to this guy, and I'm trying to resist the urge to simply be dismissive. But here's how I see it so far. He has clearly done a lot of research. He seems to have compiled a lot of data from disparate sources. He's mixed together a bunch of facts, mythologies, and annecdotes and cobbled them together into a rather imaginative story. The story loosely holds together, and he tells it in a charasmatic kind of way.

The problem is, what he's done is basically cherrypicked from an enormous datapool to tell his story. It's kind of like Mama Mia, where they took a bunch of ABBA songs and strung them together in a story. The songs were never contemplated in such a manner when they were first composed, but when presented in the musical they form a loose coherent story.

That is what Icke is doing. Moreover, his story only holds together when he puts a certain spin on the data. These guys are so secretive and brilliant, but they've left clues all over the place. The inter-dimensional lizard people can mastermind the machinations of the human race for millenial, but they can't figure out how to produce this "low vibration energy" that they apparently feed on in a more efficient manner. The goal of these secret lizards is to put together a one world government, but despite the fact that they have access to our entire timeline and could have pushed human civilization in that direction at any time, consolidating it years ago before someone like Icke could reach a world audience and somehow thwart them, they haven't done so until now.

I guess I could spend some more time trying to dissect him down (I'm sure people have done it in detail), but first can someone tell me why this guy is worth the time?

[Arouet]

Ok, so I'm making my way through the oxford lecture. A few points:

So the lizard people are controlling everything with a view to establishing a global dictatorship. They control all sides of the conflicts, setting parties up against each other. So:

1) why the need for conspiracy? If you control all sides why set things up in such a complicated manner? Pull Bin Laden's strings on one side of the ocean, Bush's on the other, etc. Why the elaborate set-up when it could be done so much simpler?

2) if the goal is world fascist dictatorship: why did hitler lose? Wouldn't it have been far easier to have set up Hitler to win, with his facist dictatorship already in place? Then impose it on the world? For that matter, why wait til modern times? Why not have let Napolean win? Or Julius Ceaser? For interdimensional beings who can work across the timeline, they sure seem to be having trouble setting this thing up!

Another point:

Icke's whole setting up problems in order to "solve" them and increase control. Is there any case where this would not look exactly like a problem that arose just through natural events?

Sure a pyramid structure would work well as an organising structure for an elite conspiracy. But would it also just not be good solid organisational structure for any institution?

If we're all part of one universal consciousness, why the need for any conspiracy at all? Isn't it just this big consciousnesses playing games with itself, probably to avoid boredom?

In any event, I'm half way through and so far have heard little of substance. If you disagree Scepcop or GI, or anyone, let's hear it!