Re: Why do many cling to a theory from a pathological liar?
Posted: 22 Jul 2010, 13:03
OK it's going to take me a long time to thoroughly go through all of that material. It would be nice if it could be narrowed down a bit to the key areas. I will acknowledge that this is probably the strongest argument for a 757 hitting the Pentagon that I've seen to date. However, based on a quick look (all that I have time for at the moment - sorry) I can tell that this presentation is not flawless and I wouldn't be so quick to tell people that they are "wrong" so definitively, especially when there is no clear video released of a 757 even approaching the Pentagon let alone striking it and none of the photos of the supposedly "larger hole" are that convincing to be saying that there is absolutely no doubt of what exactly occured. The foam was covering the larger hole? The fire truck? Hmmm. Ok, well some of these links are suggesting that and that the larger hole was very close to the ground - almost level with it. First of all, how is it possible for a guy who was described by his flight instructor to have such poor flight skills in a small plane able to pull off flying such a large plane so low to the ground that it was nearly touching it before impact - especially at such a fast speed? What are the chances that he wouldn't just crash into the ground during the attempt? Why would they choose to hit the Pentagon in such a seemingly difficult maneuver when it would have been much easier to fly down into it rather than a low side strike risking a ground crash before reaching the building? Why did the strike just so happen to occur on the side that had been recently reinforced, rather than one of the sides that hadn't undergone the construction? Coincidence? Why did the strike just so happen to occur on the opposite side of the building from where the key leaders were at the time? Another coincidence? Why even go after the Pentagon at all when they could have gone for a nuclear power plant? And why wasn't the plane shot down by the Pentagon's anti-aircraft defense system?
Where are the 2 massive engines from the 757? One of the sites you linked shows a photo with a description stating that it's not surprising that the hole is said to be only 16 feet wide since the main body of a 757 isn't that wide to begin with and thus would leave a hole around that size. They completely fail to address the massive engines and the photo they show does not show any other holes on the sides of that hole where the engines would have hit. Another link you posted (which as I said above talks about a "larger hole") refers to a 90 foot wide hole (which contradicts the link that states that a smaller hole was all that was needed). Well which is it? Was the hole 16 feet wide or 90 feet wide?
Also to clarify I never said that no plane wreckage was found at the site. I said no wreckage of a plane of that size. I have seen pictures of wreckage a long time ago to understand that something that looks like a plane crashed. But where are the massive engines? If you can show me a photo of one of those babies at the site I will admit I was wrong. I've searched everywhere and have not been able to find one.
Finally, yes, why no clear video of the plane even approaching the building? You say it was discussed elsewhere. OK, sorry, I'm new to this site. If you could tell me how to locate the thread you are referring to I would be happy to check it out. I'm very curious as to why a building that is under so much video surveilance only had one crappy $10 web cam quality video of the strike. I'm so curious as to why the videos that would have captured the strike from neighboring buildings were confiscated and why FOIA requests for other videos have been denied due to "ongoing investigation." What ongoing investigation? This happened over 9 years ago and an official report was put out indicating who did it and how. So for what reason could the evidence be withheld?
Without any real evidence being released the official story remains just a conspiracy theory. And because of a conspiracy theory the U.S. invaded 2 countries - Iraq and Afghanistan (when the people they say did this were mostly from Saudi Arabia) and we've been forced to accept unamerican legislation such as the Patriot Act harming our rights and other nonsense involved at the airports when the whole time the Mexican border has been left WIDE open. Does any of this make any sense whatsoever?
Where are the 2 massive engines from the 757? One of the sites you linked shows a photo with a description stating that it's not surprising that the hole is said to be only 16 feet wide since the main body of a 757 isn't that wide to begin with and thus would leave a hole around that size. They completely fail to address the massive engines and the photo they show does not show any other holes on the sides of that hole where the engines would have hit. Another link you posted (which as I said above talks about a "larger hole") refers to a 90 foot wide hole (which contradicts the link that states that a smaller hole was all that was needed). Well which is it? Was the hole 16 feet wide or 90 feet wide?
Also to clarify I never said that no plane wreckage was found at the site. I said no wreckage of a plane of that size. I have seen pictures of wreckage a long time ago to understand that something that looks like a plane crashed. But where are the massive engines? If you can show me a photo of one of those babies at the site I will admit I was wrong. I've searched everywhere and have not been able to find one.
Finally, yes, why no clear video of the plane even approaching the building? You say it was discussed elsewhere. OK, sorry, I'm new to this site. If you could tell me how to locate the thread you are referring to I would be happy to check it out. I'm very curious as to why a building that is under so much video surveilance only had one crappy $10 web cam quality video of the strike. I'm so curious as to why the videos that would have captured the strike from neighboring buildings were confiscated and why FOIA requests for other videos have been denied due to "ongoing investigation." What ongoing investigation? This happened over 9 years ago and an official report was put out indicating who did it and how. So for what reason could the evidence be withheld?
Without any real evidence being released the official story remains just a conspiracy theory. And because of a conspiracy theory the U.S. invaded 2 countries - Iraq and Afghanistan (when the people they say did this were mostly from Saudi Arabia) and we've been forced to accept unamerican legislation such as the Patriot Act harming our rights and other nonsense involved at the airports when the whole time the Mexican border has been left WIDE open. Does any of this make any sense whatsoever?