If time has no beginning, how can there be a present?!

[NinjaPuppy]

It's possible that we are conditioned to feel certain emotions with certain colors. But each color has its own vibration, and as you know, certain vibrations resonate with some vibrations more than others, just like certain people feel more comfortable around those they resonate than others, which is why some people you meet you feel like you've known them for years.

I've never heard of colors having vibrations. I think I can relate but if you know of a link I would love to read more.

As far as people are concerned, I can probably relate more to them giving off 'vibes' or certain energy that can be very easily felt. I don't know if I would say that these 'vibes' would make me feel like I have known them for years. More like feeling comfortable with them during a first meeting, in my opinion. I may be one of those people who don't really bond too easily. I am far from shy but I rarely get close to many people in my personal life.

[Chica]

Hi. I don't have any words of wisdom on this topic but my mother used to say that purple/lilac was the 2nd colour
of mourning. Isn't it also associated with royalty? What about pink? It is a paler shade of red, isn't it? It should ,
therefore, have the same qualities associated with it as red does---only in a milder form. Right? What, then,
about bottle green and mint green? Would they follow suit? If so, what about turquoise orange etc? Would they
represent mixtures of two types of temperament? At this point, I suspect the whole concept becomes ludicrous?
I can see how red is associated with anger as a fit of rage often dilates the blood vessels in the face but why is green
linked to jealousy or blue to sadness?

[Scepcop]

Ninjapuppy,
I don't have links right now, but aura healers and seers would consider each color to have certain vibrations, and in metaphysics, everything has its own vibration, not just colors.

Chica, most people who like pink like red too. But this is all a theory. It may be learned or inborn. Who knows. Some things are just natural. We naturally like beautiful mountains and flowers, for example, even without being conditioned to.

[TaggertComet]

scepcop,

I think the original poster of the quote you posted about there being no present is somewhat confused about the question he/she is asking. He/she states that there must be a beginning for there to be a reference point for the present. Points a and b on the line below can not both be the present, location a would not recognize location b as the present, just as location b would not recognize location a as the present.

X--------------a-------------b----------------->

Furthermore, they suggest that time extends infinitely in either direction in a purely linear manner. Perhaps he/she forgets the symbol we use to describe infinity ∞
It can better be visualized as a mobius strip, a line expressing infinite length, where "beginning" and "end" are the same point or state. I would suggest the opposite of his/her claim. How can there be a past and a future if there is the present? The past is just the memory in our minds of a state we once were. Since we cannot revisit the past except in our minds, does the past even exist? Time as we perceive it is just a direction, forward. No one, so far as we know, has experienced anti-time. If the past does exist and we were able to visit it, then there would have to be a separate universe/timeline created for every moment in time. It would be similar to a computer hard drive backup. Any changes you would make to that backup would be different than all the other backups, so in essence we wouldnt be revisiting our past, but moving to another state of existence. The future on the other hand is always a moment away. We never "plan for the future," we're really just planning for the present. At this point, all we have is the present.

One afternoon my parents took me to this circus, and while we watched the acrobats performing high up in the air (with no nets below! I'll never understood why they gambled with their life like that and no one cared, that should be against the law), I spaced out and starting thinking about the nature of time. Suddenly, I noticed something while watching all the movements during the show. With every movement and action, the previous state of things disappeared into oblivion. Even the moment I realized the present, it had already passed and became the past, never to return again. It was totally out of our control. Every moment was constantly passing into oblivion. With that, I felt a sad sense of helplessness.

It was an odd thought, but I noticed this is how time was. It was depressing to dwell on it too. I don't know why I thought these things when I was 5 or 6. Anyone else here think deep things like that when you were 5 or 6?

You're lucky to have had the faculties to ponder such ideas at age 5. I myself would've been glued to Sesame Street. Two things I disagree with you about: why should it be illegal for people to take chances with their lives? Wouldn't you be suggesting that people dont have the capacity to think for themselves and make their own decisions? Sounds an awful lot like 1984. Also, would you make it illegal for anyone to join the armed services or drive cars? Both have risk of death. In my experience, safety apparatus gives people false confidence and leads them to taking more risk than necessary. That being said, I would certainly want a net if I were doing the trapeze! Secondly, I find it strange that you think the idea of the present slipping away into the past as sad and helpless. If time did not pass, we would be stuck in a single state. No one could change their circumstance or themselves. I find that more hopeless than the chance to reinvent myself with every new second.

[highflyertoo]

Speaking of time, I had a weird experience when I was 5 or 6 that reflected my deep pondering of life early on.

One afternoon my parents took me to this circus, and while we watched the acrobats performing high up in the air (with no nets below! I'll never understood why they gambled with their life like that and no one cared, that should be against the law), I spaced out and starting thinking about the nature of time. Suddenly, I noticed something while watching all the movements during the show. With every movement and action, the previous state of things disappeared into oblivion. Even the moment I realized the present, it had already passed and became the past, never to return again. It was totally out of our control. Every moment was constantly passing into oblivion. With that, I felt a sad sense of helplessness.

It was an odd thought, but I noticed this is how time was. It was depressing to dwell on it too. I don't know why I thought these things when I was 5 or 6. Anyone else here think deep things like that when you were 5 or 6?

I wrote out a long response and my page broke down... I'll try condense form

I thought the other day while riding back on the bike from the shops about maybe there is no PRESENT TIME but only ''Past Time Thoughts and Future Time Thoughts'' because I can not measure the Present Time Thought.

I can think about the Past and Future, yet I can't think about the Present Time because I can't put it in a jar to examine it.

I mean really who can scientifically prove that there is an actually Present, maybe awarness is only allowed to be in the Past and Future while being excluded from a percieved present awareness. When someone speaks,even before completing their word, the past has taken place.

So is the Past and Future ACTUALLY occupying the present time?, instead of the present occupying the Present Time called NOW ?

[highflyertoo]

Ok i'll try this instead .... What is the location of NOW? If one can't visit the PAST because it's gone, then where has it gone? Did the present ever LEAVE?, if the Present never left, then how can there be a PAST? How can I rectreive thoughts that are meant to have taken place before, yet are still able to be RECALLED? Surely recalling the past is TIME TRAVEL?

This is why i believe science has no right to assert itself as ''true knowledge''. Science is limited to the natural only.

[highflyertoo]

The Mysteries of God are unfathomable

[Nostradamus]

There are a large number of logical fallacies or should we say assumptions in the original post.

1. There is no guarantee that time continues without end
2. There is no guarantee that time has always existed
3. The dead forever claim is a tautology
4. The claim that something never existed, followed by a statement that its a contradiction that it never existed is a contradiction

The mathematical statements are so weird that I think it best that the poster get a basic lesson in coordinate systems.