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The Mothman - 100+ eyewitnesses can't be wrong!

Postby Scepcop » 08 Jun 2010, 23:46

The Mothman sightings in West Virginia 1967.

A hundred plus witnesses can't be all lying or deluded. One of the best cases for the paranormal ever.

I saw the film with Richard Gere. It was very spooky.

Here is a 5 part longer documentary about the Mothman. It is very convincing and scary.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tO830ynPzA0

Here also is the Hollywood film about it starring Richard Gere. The whole thing is uploaded on YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCreHuAcusk

Here is an Art Bell program about it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EqCkxvueAg

Here is the segment from Unsolved Mysteries:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjqdPInH ... EtR147hILY

Here is a segment about it from Weird TV.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ALEA8xWW4g

Very convincing! 100+ eyewitnesses can't be wrong, especially since many sightings were by MULTIPLE PEOPLE AT THE SAME TIME!

Pseudoskeptics have no way to dispute this one!
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Re: The Mothman - 100+ eyewitnesses can't be wrong!

Postby ciscop » 09 Jun 2010, 00:00

yes
they can all be wrong

there is a case very famous
of a bear that went missing in germany (netherlands?)
in the newspapers they printed out the story of the missing bear
there were over 2000 people that saw the bear everywhere

the thing is that the bear died really close to the zoo the same day they printed out the story

so yes..100people can be wrong
wether you accept it, you like it or not
you just like to deceive yourself
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Re: The Mothman - 100+ eyewitnesses can't be wrong!

Postby ProfWag » 09 Jun 2010, 00:07

I thought that years ago, this was determined to have been a Sandhill Crane?
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Re: The Mothman - 100+ eyewitnesses can't be wrong!

Postby ciscop » 09 Jun 2010, 00:13

yep.. you only needed a spark and then everybody was looking for it
the first eyes witnesses were the ones that made everybody else scared

this is the mothman
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one of the eyewitnesses on the videos you provided
called it a LARGE BIRD

case closed
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Re: The Mothman - 100+ eyewitnesses can't be wrong!

Postby Scepcop » 09 Jun 2010, 02:17

ProfWag wrote:I thought that years ago, this was determined to have been a Sandhill Crane?


Another case where a skeptic prefers a false explanation that doesn't fit the data over a paranormal one.

The guy who saw it while driving said the "sandhill crane" theory is 100 percent wrong.

You skeptics are too desperate to conclude a nonparanormal explanation.

People who saw it will tell you it was NOT a sandhill crane. It was much larger and much scarier.
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Re: The Mothman - 100+ eyewitnesses can't be wrong!

Postby Scepcop » 09 Jun 2010, 02:20

ciscop wrote:yes
they can all be wrong

there is a case very famous
of a bear that went missing in germany (netherlands?)
in the newspapers they printed out the story of the missing bear
there were over 2000 people that saw the bear everywhere

the thing is that the bear died really close to the zoo the same day they printed out the story

so yes..100people can be wrong
wether you accept it, you like it or not
you just like to deceive yourself


Can you show me some links for this bear story?

How come when people tell me something, it usually checks out, and if many people tell me something, it always checks out? I can give you many simple examples.

Someone tells me that a new movie is out. I check the paper or theater, and yes, they were right, the film is showing. Countless examples like that check out usually. Probability is on our side, not the "all paranormal is false" side.
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Re: The Mothman - 100+ eyewitnesses can't be wrong!

Postby ProfWag » 09 Jun 2010, 02:26

Scepcop wrote:
ProfWag wrote:I thought that years ago, this was determined to have been a Sandhill Crane?


Another case where a skeptic prefers a false explanation that doesn't fit the data over a paranormal one.

The guy who saw it while driving said the "sandhill crane" theory is 100 percent wrong.

You skeptics are too desperate to conclude a nonparanormal explanation.

People who saw it will tell you it was NOT a sandhill crane. It was much larger and much scarier.

Well, that settles it. It WAS a scary creature, half man and half butterfly with red eyes sticking out of its head...or with red eyes sticking out of its body...Actually, people who have seen this "scary" creature can't even agree whether or not it had a head! Yet, I'm supposed to believe it was a paranormal Mothman? What the HELL???!!!!
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Re: The Mothman - 100+ eyewitnesses can't be wrong!

Postby ciscop » 09 Jun 2010, 04:01

I had to do some reserch
and it was actually a Panda and it was from netherlands.
here is the youtube link at 3.02 is when he talks about this story Brian Brushwood
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/user/shwooddotcom#p/u/37/NlJM2cIvGdA[/youtube]

you can also find the story at NESS
http://www.theness.com/mother-mary-comes-to-me/

but i believe the first time i read it was from Richard Wiseman´s book. Quirkology (why people believe WEIRD things)
there you go
so yeah a 100 people CAN BE WRONG
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Re: The Mothman - 100+ eyewitnesses can't be wrong!

Postby NinjaPuppy » 09 Jun 2010, 05:47

I have always found the stories about 'Mothman' very interesting. As far as logical explanations for some of the sightings I will tell you that a barred owl can fit the description quite well. Those suckers are huge and when they take off in flight they can seem almost human sized. But I still believe there is something unexplained out there for all of those stories and sightings to have been started.
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Re: The Mothman - 100+ eyewitnesses can't be wrong!

Postby ciscop » 09 Jun 2010, 07:34

not really
like i said
in this case you only needed one couple making a mistake and telling everybody the monster they saw
to start the paraedolia and mass hallucinations
as simple as that

here in my city a cop on duty saw a witch flying in a broom
2 days later a couple of kids saw her too..
you only need one to start a fire
thats it
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Re: The Mothman - 100+ eyewitnesses can't be wrong!

Postby ProfWag » 09 Jun 2010, 08:05

And don't forget the Argentinian Gnome!

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Re: The Mothman - 100+ eyewitnesses can't be wrong!

Postby ciscop » 09 Jun 2010, 09:20

Scepcop wrote:
ProfWag wrote:I thought that years ago, this was determined to have been a Sandhill Crane?


Another case where a skeptic prefers a false explanation that doesn't fit the data over a paranormal one.

The guy who saw it while driving said the "sandhill crane" theory is 100 percent wrong.

You skeptics are too desperate to conclude a nonparanormal explanation.

People who saw it will tell you it was NOT a sandhill crane. It was much larger and much scarier.


hhahahahahahahahaha
all right
then it was a mothman

you are amazing
you hear stories and believe them
is just like religion
a guy in the top of a mountain gets the rules and you obey
you dont question, you just hear a story and gotta believe is true because is fantastic
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Re: The Mothman - 100+ eyewitnesses can't be wrong!

Postby Scepcop » 11 Jun 2010, 03:18

Check out this clip from The Mothman Prophecies movie. It's the creepiest phone call scene ever!

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Re: The Mothman - 100+ eyewitnesses can't be wrong!

Postby August West » 11 Mar 2012, 09:41

A sandhill crane! LOL Well, that settles it, then.

Wag, you never disappoint, but that's only because I expect you to say something very stupid.

The "moth-man" didn't resemble a moth or butterfly in any way other than having wings. The name "moth-man" came from an episode of "BATMAN" that aired around the same time as the sightings.
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Re: The Mothman - 100+ eyewitnesses can't be wrong!

Postby ProfWag » 12 Mar 2012, 21:16

August West wrote:A sandhill crane! LOL Well, that settles it, then.

Wag, you never disappoint, but that's only because I expect you to say something very stupid.

The "moth-man" didn't resemble a moth or butterfly in any way other than having wings. The name "moth-man" came from an episode of "BATMAN" that aired around the same time as the sightings.

Now you're just being an ass August. At the time of the sightings the sandhill crane is precisely what it is believed it was mistaken for: http://www.wvculture.org/history/notewv/mothman3.jpg

Oh, and one other thing August. The name "Mothman" didn't come from an episode of "Batman," but rather the name of the series as a whole. "And why that bizarre name ö Mothman? Apparently, it was the work of "some copyeditor at the local newspaper. At the time, the "Batman" series was on TV, so they didn't want to call it 'Batman,' but it did have wings, so the copyeditor called it 'Mothman.' We have no other information than that ö I've been trying to track that copyeditor down for twenty years."
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